I think Ron did the GN cars after I gave him my car builders cyclopedia as a 
down payment on an FP 7 at an early Cleveland convention when he introduced the 
loco to everyone.
The Cyclopedia had all the Empire Builder car plans in it.

We did not nit pick those cars to pieces when they came out

John Armstrong 
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  From: adguytrains 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:13 PM
  Subject: {S-Scale List} Dome Cars


    
  Dome car modelers & fans...

  Since we always seem to lapse back into a discussion about the prototypical l 
"correctness" of the American Models dome car on this list, I thought I'd 
provide the below websites and a quick comment or two of what I have researched 
on these cars over the years. 

  As we have previously stated, the AM dome cars were "modeled" after the NP 
and GN BUDD domes (virtually identical cars on the exterior). Those two BUDD 
car designs were unique to themselves and the Empire Builder and North Coast 
Limited trains. Only Ron knows why he chose to model the Empire Builder train 
set. 

  Ignoring all of the previously discussed errors/compromises in the AM cars, 
the domes themselves are too small in two important ways; 1. They are 6" 
(approximately) too short in height (tall), and 2. They are not wide enough. 
BUDD domes were all 28" high and either 15'-6" or 16'-2" long. Yep, there were 
two different sizes of BUDD domes. All, however, were full-width, meaning the 
domes extended right out to the flat edge of the car side. THAT is the most 
glaring error with the dome, not the missed height.

  I highly recommend that anyone interested in dome cars visit these two 
websites.

  www.vistadome.com/vistadome 
  has a vast photo array of nearly any dome car you might wish to see.

  www.trainweb.com/web_lurker 
  offers a fine discussion of each RR/train that had domes in the US/Canada. 
John Kuehl has done a really good job of both illustrating and describing the 
differences between BUDD, P/S & home-built domes. Again, there is a wealth of 
data, car names and photos of standard domes, 3/4 domes and full length domes. 
There are even interior photos showing the differences between BUDD and P/S 
cars.

  Enjoy! Bob Hogan 



  

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