John...

Thanks!  That's the "history" I have always heard about those cars for 20 
years.  Still doesn't explain the flat roof, or the short windows & skirting 
questions.  But...as Ron once told me..."Bob, they are TOYS.  Just @#$%# TOYS!" 
 

Despite the inaccuracies of some AM models, we S scalers still own Ron a great 
deal for his pioneering efforts at a time when S was essentially dead.  Thank 
you!

Bob Hogan    

--- In [email protected], "John" <armstong5717@...> wrote:
>
> I think Ron did the GN cars after I gave him my car builders cyclopedia as a 
> down payment on an FP 7 at an early Cleveland convention when he introduced 
> the loco to everyone.
> The Cyclopedia had all the Empire Builder car plans in it.
> 
> We did not nit pick those cars to pieces when they came out
> 
> John Armstrong 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: adguytrains 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:13 PM
>   Subject: {S-Scale List} Dome Cars
> 
> 
>     
>   Dome car modelers & fans...
> 
>   Since we always seem to lapse back into a discussion about the prototypical 
> l "correctness" of the American Models dome car on this list, I thought I'd 
> provide the below websites and a quick comment or two of what I have 
> researched on these cars over the years. 
> 
>   As we have previously stated, the AM dome cars were "modeled" after the NP 
> and GN BUDD domes (virtually identical cars on the exterior). Those two BUDD 
> car designs were unique to themselves and the Empire Builder and North Coast 
> Limited trains. Only Ron knows why he chose to model the Empire Builder train 
> set. 
> 
>   Ignoring all of the previously discussed errors/compromises in the AM cars, 
> the domes themselves are too small in two important ways; 1. They are 6" 
> (approximately) too short in height (tall), and 2. They are not wide enough. 
> BUDD domes were all 28" high and either 15'-6" or 16'-2" long. Yep, there 
> were two different sizes of BUDD domes. All, however, were full-width, 
> meaning the domes extended right out to the flat edge of the car side. THAT 
> is the most glaring error with the dome, not the missed height.
> 
>   I highly recommend that anyone interested in dome cars visit these two 
> websites.
> 
>   www.vistadome.com/vistadome 
>   has a vast photo array of nearly any dome car you might wish to see.
> 
>   www.trainweb.com/web_lurker 
>   offers a fine discussion of each RR/train that had domes in the US/Canada. 
> John Kuehl has done a really good job of both illustrating and describing the 
> differences between BUDD, P/S & home-built domes. Again, there is a wealth of 
> data, car names and photos of standard domes, 3/4 domes and full length 
> domes. There are even interior photos showing the differences between BUDD 
> and P/S cars.
> 
>   Enjoy! Bob Hogan 
> 
> 
> 
>   
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