Hey, Michael!  I hope your decision to abandon S is not final.  You have made a 
telling point about modern models.  I am not sure exactly how one gets that 
moving.  I model the CGW in 1953, so what's available is about right for me.  I 
understand, however, your point.  

A few years ago I speculated on what railroad I would model if I wanted to do 
the contemporary scene.  My thoughts turned to the WC which I viewed as a 
spunky fighter.  I did not move in that direction because a such a strong 
interest in the CGW.  

Stick with us in S.  I believe contemporary models will appear.  I believe they 
will have to in order to attract the younger set.

Tom
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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Michael 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: {S-Scale List} Wow where do I begin! LONG!

I never thought that asking a simple question would spark such an array of 
answers.  The majority of which had nothing to do with what I asked.  Now just 
because I'm new to S Scale, doesn't mean I'm new to the way this hobby works.  
Maybe I should have introduced myself first, before asking such an outlandishly 
foolish question.

My name is Michael Ostertag and I am a locomotive engineer for the Canadian 
National in Green Bay, WI.  I have been working for the railroad since 1992, 
first as a brakeman for the Green Bay and Western.  Then in 1993, with the 
Wisconsin Central as a Conductor.  In 1996 I took an engineers promotion.  In 
2001 the CN purchased the WC and the rest is history as they say.  I have run 
almost every conceivable type of locomotive that has had a pulse at the time.  
SDL39's?  All nine remaining ones until they were retired (587 being my 
favorite)  everything from FP7's to SD70ACE's!  SD9043's, been there they suck!

My point is that I know my way around a locomotive.  Not only in real life, but 
in the modeling world as well.  I have been in the hobby for over 30 years.  I 
am far from an expert, but I am well into the advanced category.  So it really 
is disheartening to hear some of the answers that I have read.  Between reading 
the answers to my question and reading the entire thread from BTS's "modern go 
away" thing, it's no wonder this scale has been stagnant.  You guys can't get 
out of your own way!  S Scale is the PERFECT SIZE!  It could be so much more 
than what it is now.  However, apparently, SHS has a noose round the neck of 
every manufacturer.  Really!  I am really beginning to think that you guys 
don't want the scale to advance.  This is ridiculous!

Ok so let me get this straight also.  If you don't model narrow gauge, or steam 
or something prior to the transition era, S Scale is not for you!  Right!  Is 
that what I'm hearing!  That is absolute and udder BS!  You want to know the 
truth!  Take a closer look at a train the next time you see one.  Look at it 
really close!  Those engine's aren't all the same.  The are different, in a lot 
of way's.  Just because they don't have external drivers and a boiler doesn't 
mean they aren't alive!

The same holds true in this scale!  Des Plaines is trying to get the scale to 
advance.  You have to remember something folks, the future of any scale in this 
hobby is the kids that aren't yet into the hobby.  Anyone here tell me right 
now why a kid would want to get into S Scale?  Anyone?  Anyone?  That's what I 
thought.  Unless the more modern things that kids today are seeing, are 
available to them, they aren't going to be interested in the scale at all.  
That's why HO is kicking everyone's ass!  Where is the scale going to go once 
all the guys and gals that are 60+ pass away?  It will die!  Does anyone here 
want that to happen?

All I wanted to know is if there was an interest in a product like that.  
Apparently it is starting to look like I've made a bad decision with wanting to 
switch to S Scale.  The way I see it, right now this was a bad, bad decision!  
Bad attitudes from manufacturers and from others in the scale?  Wow!  No wonder 
it's going nowhere.  It's a shame too, I thought it was a lot tighter nit 
community than this.  Instead all I'm hearing is a bunch of whining and finger 
pointing.  Modern models are the future of this hobby guys!  If it is going to 
advance, that is the way it has to go!

Michael Ostertag



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