There were two groups of Rock Island sleepers, one the 8BR 6Rmt cars that were built in 1954, and later went to Amtrak; and the 5 duplex sleepers of 1947, which were scrapped by Hoover Industries, Eagle Lake, Texas. I heard of Hofheinz, but never understood why he collected all those cars, I have no records on any others, he certainly gathered the cream of the crop.
The KCS Good Cheer is still there, but off its trucks and deteriorating badly, I presume from the structural consequences of having a steel underframe and an aluminum body with no provision for preventing the galvanic decay of when dissimilar metals are joined. Gulf Coast Chapter NRHS owns that car and the Verde Valley, IIRC. The sister of the G-C is in south Kansas City deteriorating similarly, the word is get pix while you can. DJE ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Baker To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Passenger Car Underbody Layout Bob, I recall from 1970-1972, when I lived in Houston and made a few friends with whom my wife and I hung out on many weekends and from cruising around Houston, that one Judge Hofheinz--not sure about the spelling--had quite a collection of passenger equipment strewn about parts of the city. 1. One location featured many streamlined cars from the ACL, SAL, L&N--not sure how many roads. That was near the dome. 2. Another location featured the SP three-car articulated diner, kitchen, and lounge; some SP articulated coaches I think; there may have been more than one articulated diner outfit, one painted in original SP orange and red, the other painted silver with the red-orange stripe on the letterboard area, SP office car or two 3. I also recall a fleet of former SR office cars: SR proper, CG, and other companies already in the SR fold. I mean there were strings of them. Having passed them every now and then, a friend and I summoned courage to break and enter. Actually no breaking was involved. The winos and transients had already taken care of that and also left their ubiquitous and malodorous calling card, the heavy scent of uric acid. I did pick up an ACL passenger timetable or two and some SR paper napkins. Houston Union Station, a more pleasant and apparently safer haven, was home to two passenger cars owned by a railfan group, I think: The former ATSF "Verde Valley" and the KCS boat-tail observation car, maybe the "Good Cheer". In another location all by its lonesome was a former KCS 10-section heavyweight club lounge, used by the KCS as a parlor diner possibly. The car served on the CGW from 1932 on usually on the Twin Cities-Omaha-Twin Cities night run. There were two cars, one called the "Mount Mansfield," the other the "Mount Doane". Before that the cars had served on the Washington-Montreal-Washington night trains. I cannot recall the names they had then. That car went back east and was, so I am told, restored to its 10-section-open-platform configuration. How long you have lived in Houston I don't know; but if you were there in the early Seventies and into the later Seventies, so were the cars. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bob Werre [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:09 PM To: S Scale Subject: Fwd: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Passenger Car Underbody Layout [7 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Bob Werre included below] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Passenger Car Underbody Layout Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:38:11 -0500 From: Bob Werre <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Thanks Bob, I just remembered that I had made a quick trip to our local RR museum (and semi junk yard) for a meeting where I make a few shots of the passenger car appliances. The only problem is that these cars are pretty much static and some parts of have been removed. Several of the cars have had several owners, perhaps updates and various unknown builders. Anyway some of the shots might be useful to some degree or add to the degree of confusion! Bob Werre PhotoTraxx Bob... It is attached to the bottom of the center sill (ether size tank). Cut the water filler casting so it does not need to go under the tank casting. Attach all with Walthers Goo. Bob Hogan --- In [email protected], Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote: > > Bob, Jamie, > > Your postings have just come at the right time for me. I painted up a > mess of BTS, and Supply Car parts plus some of the originals from Ladd > Hudda is past weekend. I seem to have purchased most of the correct parts. > > I do have one question---regarding the water tanks. Should the tank be > routed or grooved to fit around the centersill or is it fastened below > the sill? I am using the older smoothsided AM cars. > > Bob Werre > PhotoTraxx > > > > On 9/4/12 9:43 PM, Jamie Bothwell wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > A few additions to Bob's post. See below. > > On Sep 4, 2012, at 5:29 PM, adguytrains wrote: > > > > > > All... > > > As requested, I have posted several albums in the Photos Section > > related to passenger car underbody layouts and building The Supply Car > > kits. > > > > > ... > > > > I couldn't agree more. That's all the time I have for this tonight, so > > my post on Empire State cars will have to wait until tomorrow. Sorry Ed. > > > > > Please don't hesitate to contact me directly for assistance on > > finishing your cars. Have fun! > > > Bob Hogan > > > > > > > Me too, > > Jamie Bothwell > > Bethlehem, PA > > > > > Attachment(s) from Bob Werre 7 of 7 Photo(s) IMG_0242x.jpg IMG_0248x.jpg IMG_0252x.jpg IMG_0264.jpg IMG_0267x.jpg IMG_0268x.jpg Panorama1.jpg
