Gent's, I guess if your modeling a 100 car multi level auto carrier train  
the KD802/808's would be right on the money.     I  always have a good 
chuckle when this debate shows up. As equipment wears ,  especially cushioned 
control types, the amount of slack can be way beyond  the specs of the 
manufacturer.  As for the longitudinal movement of  the cabin car, just model 
the 
Penn Central or other beat up roads. You haven't  lived till you went though 
East Conway interlocking[and several others including  Jacks on the middle 
PRR middle div] at track speed. Anyway's, carry on guy's,  I'm enjoying the 
show.
 
    Gary Carmichael 
 
 
In a message dated 9/13/2012 12:58:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
 
 
 
Jim King wrote:

"His design permits Kadee centering  without the annoying slack action."

Annoying??  One of my favorite  memories is seeing NYC Mohawks (Mountains 
for you non-NYC fans) starting a  100-car train.  The loco would back up 
about a car length, bunching up  slack.  Then it would pull forward, ever so 
slowly, taking out the slack  car by car.  You could hear the clunk! clunk! 
clunk! as each coupler  became fully extended and each car leapt into slow 
motion.  The Mohawks'  replacements, Alco FA/FB lash-ups, did the same thing.  
Thankfully, this  is one of the aspects of running trains on my layout that I 
really enjoy --  starting a freight train and listening to the slack 
take-up as the locomotive  gradually moved forward.

Lest you rebut by observing that the Kadee  802/808 centering springs cause 
the caboose to constantly bob longitudinally,  I refer you back to my 
oft-repeated (in print as well as via electrons) but  little-heeded 
recommendation (supported by Kadee themselves!) to substitute a  knuckle spring 
for the 
too-stiff centering spring.

Dick  Karnes





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