My wife used to work at a credit life insurance company. Over the years, during the dying days of the caboose, a number of brakemen/conductors were injured by the 'jerks' that happened with slack action. Some injuries were fakes and some were real.

A former studio-mate of mine called me one day. He had been on a jury deciding a case brought against the SP by an employee. By the time the case was closed he had learned all kinds of terminology of the trade. He said I would I have fit right in.

So that's the other side of slack action that I'm sure Bud, Bob and Gary can attest too.

Bob Werre



On 9/13/12 8:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Gent's, I guess if your modeling a 100 car multi level auto carrier train the KD802/808's would be right on the money. I always have a good chuckle when this debate shows up. As equipment wears , especially cushioned control types, the amount of slack can be way beyond the specs of the manufacturer. As for the longitudinal movement of the cabin car, just model the Penn Central or other beat up roads. You haven't lived till you went though East Conway interlocking[and several others including Jacks on the middle PRR middle div] at track speed. Anyway's, carry on guy's, I'm enjoying the show.
    Gary Carmichael
In a message dated 9/13/2012 12:58:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

    Jim King wrote:

    "His design permits Kadee centering without the annoying slack
    action."

    Annoying??  One of my favorite memories is seeing NYC Mohawks
    (Mountains for you non-NYC fans) starting a 100-car train.  The
    loco would back up about a car length, bunching up slack.  Then it
    would pull forward, ever so slowly, taking out the slack car by
    car.  You could hear the clunk! clunk! clunk! as each coupler
    became fully extended and each car leapt into slow motion.  The
Mohawks' replacements, Alco FA/FB lash-ups, did the same thing. Thankfully, this is one of the aspects of running trains on my
    layout that I really enjoy -- starting a freight train and
    listening to the slack take-up as the locomotive gradually moved
    forward.

    Lest you rebut by observing that the Kadee 802/808 centering
    springs cause the caboose to constantly bob longitudinally, I
    refer you back to my oft-repeated (in print as well as via
    electrons) but little-heeded recommendation (supported by Kadee
    themselves!) to substitute a knuckle spring for the too-stiff
    centering spring.

    Dick Karnes



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