On Dec 20, 2007 1:39 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, the biggest problem is the 2GB space for the windows wmware > image. (Yes, all people I know that > use Mathematica, use it from windows). Two of my friends told me Sage > is just too big for them and I agree. > If Michael and others succeed in a native Windows port, needing just > couple hundreds MB, then Sage > will be a killer app.
Vmware is not the reason the install is so big. It could be made much smaller if anybody besides me were interesting putting some serious work into it. I think the result would be comparable to anything one could do with a native port. In fact, it could easily be _bigger_. The sage-vmware image is 2GB now because: (1) I use Ubuntu linux instead of something like DSL (Damn Small Linux) (2) The base installation disk is not a compressed file system, but it could be. If it were, Sage and all the OS stuff would automatically be decompressed on the fly -- thus the result could easily be smaller than a native windows install. (3) I do not think it is my place to put a lot of time into the sage-vmware virtual machine, and nobody has yet volunteered to make it their project. I used to make a much smaller sage-vmware image, and it even included a GUI; but of course using DSL is less plush than using Ubuntu, and _surprisingly_ few people complain about the size of the sage-vmware image. I want to emphasize again very strongly that very little effort has gone into the sage-vmware image -- it's just enough to get the job done and nothing more. Creating and maintaining a native windows port is vastly more difficult than making the sage-vmware machine small. That said I'm all for a native windows port! I just think we need to do it for the right reasons, and also hope somebody will put some work into improving running Sage under windows via virtualization. -- William > > Mainly because of bringing a matlab/mathematica like Python IDE to all > those people at universities. > Sage is really doing a fantastic job to the whole Python community. So > I hope it will be accepted under > the umbrella of PSF for the google summer of code. > > Ondrej > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
