I must have been what Dutch would call "direct", English "undiplomatic" and
French "violent", I guess.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2022, 20:31 Matthias Koeppe, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, bad link, I meant to paste this link:
> https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/ayOL8_bzOfk/m/5jotDDgyBwAJ
>
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 12:29:50 PM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing that this must be a language barrier at work here,
>> but these accusations of using "violence"
>> (first occurrence,
>> https://cfce091fecee537040d612098a22852d9f083c36--sagemath-tobias.netlify.app/developer/index.html#welcome-to-the-sage-developer-s-guide
>> )
>> are by far the most offensive thing that happened both in the original
>> thread and in the current thread.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 11:44:37 AM UTC-7 vdelecroix wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I do not interpret Thierry message as an attempt to change the issue
>>> of the vote. Most of the answers focused on this particular point and
>>> hence look completely off topic to me. More dramatically they are also
>>> very rude in that they try to discredit what Thierry attempted to
>>> share. I also felt a lot of violence during the discussion that
>>> preceded the vote and it does continue right now. The problem is about
>>> the form and not about the issue of the decision.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 19:19, David Roe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I will also note that the final vote in favor of moving to github was
>>> 46 to 8 in favor. Another few weeks of discussion, on top of the
>>> substantial amount of time spent over the last few months (in fact, over
>>> the last decade), is unlikely to have changed the outcome.
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 12:51 PM Matthias Koeppe <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 3:11:12 AM UTC-7 Thierry
>>> (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> several developers asked for delays [...]
>>> >>> [1,2,3,4,5,6].
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a misrepresentation of most of the 6 cited messages. I'll
>>> just point out one specifically:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [3] Vincent : "For me the discussion in this thread is very
>>> premature"
>>> >>> https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/ayOL8_bzOfk/m/ZTXx_speBwAJ
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This message from Vincent dates Sep 10, which *prompted* our efforts
>>> to write the detailed
>>> >> transition guide, work out many details etc. over the following week.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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