On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:23 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> wrote: > As service for those who are missing the references: [...] > > - 5-year plan (appeared in https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/sVeu16vaEqo/m/D4pewORzAQAJ and previously in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/35404#issuecomment-1505048255) = refers to a practice of the Soviet union introduced by Stalin and later by other countries in the Eastern Bloc. The first Soviet 5-year plan led to millions of deaths by famine. This reference is particularly offensive because both Dima and I grew up in the Eastern Bloc.
Offensive? You seem to find this offensive now, but making similar is spirit remarks about my alledged lack of knowledge of English, or me being deeply Soviet in my mind, or I f**king don't know what, as in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/32532#issuecomment-1418146524 is OK for you? I quote: > Ah, this is a common confusion. gcc is a standard package - in this case the word is spelled "standard" but it's pronounced "base". > I think this complicated situation is due to the 1918 spelling reform. (Remark: there was a spelling reform of Russian 1918 in USSR, cf. wikipedia) By the way, it's from https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/32532 I'm sorry to hear that you were offended by that, I had no idea. It definitely was not my intention. To the contrary, I was referring to my (limited) knowledge of the Russian language and its development as a reminder of our friendly in-person interactions when you visited me in Berkeley and Davis --- which now seems ages ago. I'll now explain the joke: - "base" referred to the special status of some "standard" packages as in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/blob/develop/build/make/Makefile.in#L256 and some loose ends in the source code related to that, https://github.com/sagemath/sage/blob/develop/build/sage_bootstrap/package.py#L327 - the 1918 spelling reform of Russian consolidated some vowels, rendering some entirely unrelated words to be spelt the same (I'm not sure whether also pronounced the same) - the phrase "the word is spelt '...' but it's pronounced '(something obviously unrelated)" is a reference to a popular Monty Python sketch that involves a character named Raymond Luxury-Yacht whose name is pronounced quite unrelated to this spelling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/43165a7b-6687-42c2-a914-051ee93e45f6n%40googlegroups.com.
