2009/8/19 Golam Mortuza Hossain <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:30 PM, William Stein<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Ondrej Certik<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> well, I would interpret it differently:
>>>
>>> int f(x) d(x^2)  = int f(x) 2 x dx
>>>                     = 2 integrate(x*f(x),x)
>>
>> That's exactly what I meant.  I was just being very sloppy because I
>> was in a hurry.  The point is that "int f(x) d(x^2)  = int f(x) 2 x
>> dx" seems very reasonable.    We could easily make Sage use this
>> interpretation even though Maxima doesn't.  It woud be an additional
>> 2-3 lines of code in calculus.py.
>>
>> I am equally for either:
>>
>> (1) raising an error like Mathematica does
>> and
>> (2) Use the interpretation that Ondrej and I agree upon above.
>>
>> I favor (1) a little bit more than (2), because it's clear that there
>> is some confusion over this issue
>
>
> Hmm, could you please clarify a bit? When you say "raise an error"
> do you mean
>
> (A) (damn the user!!)
> -------
> sage: integrate( sin(x), x^2)
> ....
> TypeError: blah.. blah...
> -------
>
> or (B) (leave it symbolic)
> -------
> sage: integrate(f(x), x^2)
> integrate( sin(x), x^2)
> -------
>
>
> (A) will have some bad consequences like
>
> -----
> sage: h =  sin(x) + integrate( sin(x), x)
> sage: h.subs(x==2*x)
> sin(2*x) - cos(2*x)
> -----
> will work but
> -----
> sage: h =  sin(x) + integrate( sin(x)/x, x)
> sage: h.subs(x==2*x)
> ...
> TypeError: .....
> -----
>
> It would be bad if we don't allow even constant scaling
> of variable in the integration.
>
> I guess, there are no ambiguity when it is an expression
> containing single variable and we should process it as you
> and Ondrej suggested. For other cases, we leave
> it symbolic as Robert (Dodier) suggested.

I am personally fine with Robert Dodier's suggestion, i.e., A above
and don't "damn the user".

William

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