On 02/26/11 09:44 PM, kcrisman wrote:

But honestly I don't think that the money is to be made for Sage (yet)
for commercial support, precisely for the reasons that a few people
stated; R and numpy/Enthought have very targeted audiences, and why
would someone ask for support for Sage when they could just buy
support for the piece they actually needed?

I do agree. I don't see there being much (if any) money in supporting Sage.

But I do think a lack of the availability of commercial support would further reduce the chances of it ever happening.

For now, the academic
market has to be the big target, until someone tells us how they need
Sage's pieces to work together in an industrial setting (as
presumably, Maple and Mma, and obviously Matlab, are used).

I don't see this happening until there are more tools for industrial users. For statistics, they would be better just using R alone. Things like number theory are interesting academically, but don't have a huge interest to industrial users.

Where I think industrial users could be attracted is the opportunity to collaborate on documents with others in remote locations. I was in the position once of working with a university in Germany, an aircraft manufacturer in Germany and a Swiss company.

* German university used MATLAB and Labiew
* Aircraft manufacturer used MATLAB
* Swiss company used Excel
* I used Mathematica.

We shared results, but with different software, it was not as easy as it could have been.

Sharing data on a web-based interface would have been quite attractive. Being able to discuss ideas on the phone, and regenerate the data for others to see in almost real time would have been quite nice. That's something you can't do with any of the other tools.

It was actually quite useful for two people to analyse the results - one with Mathematica and another with MATLAB. Had there been *relevant* bugs in the software we used, comparing results should have highlighted this. In contrast, when we did get different results, it was always due to someone making a different assumption about the experimental data than someone else. Of course there are bugs in MATLAB and Mathematica, but we never uncovered any that affected our results.

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