2014-11-27 18:41 GMT+01:00 Nathann Cohen <nathann.co...@gmail.com>:

> Yooooooo !
>
> > I think we can discuss code and ideas without being rude. If I receive a
> rude comment, I have neither the energy nor the time to find the ideas in
> it, and I shouldn't have to do it (and neither should you).
>
> Well, rudeness happen because of misunderstandings. Of course we can
> discuss code without being rude, but sometimes it is also different
> standards, that's all. Look at the 0-based Permutation thing: you have your
> standard, I have mine. I will never find that yours makes sense, you will
> never find that mine makes sense. But one of us will always have to use the
> other's standard. There is nothing fair in that, and it will not be fair
> whatever the choice. Plus there is no exchange possible, it's not like we
> can make deals over that.
>
> Dictators are cool for this kind of things :-P
>

Well, conversations such as the one we had on permutations are fine. We
both have a point of view and we just argued to defend it. I see no problem
in that! The problem comes where instead, this goes out of hand with
personal attacks, demeaning comments or things like that.


> > The point of the code of conduct is not to make us change our general
> behaviour. I think, most of time, we're doing ok. Even in this post, it's
> not that bad. Just it happens that, sometimes, someone crosses the line and
> I find it good that we write down what being respectful means to us, that's
> all.
>
> Yeah, but it's like building guns. Eventually, somebody will point it at
> someone. And then it will not be about "being friendly", it will be about
> "the rules that are written". Personally, this is the only thing I want to
> avoid. Nobody here ever meant to claim that it was not right to be friendly
> and patient.
>

I understand your fear. That's why I'm really ready to put effort into
*not* making it a gun. None of us want a gun, what we want is a safety
nest, no shooting!! On the other hand, you guys have to acknowledge the
fact that some of us need this safety nest even if you don't see the
point... That's the very reason people proposed a code of conduct at the
first place.

 Cheers

Viviane

>
> Nathann
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