On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:53 PM, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:27 AM, kcrisman <[email protected]> wrote: >> An FYI to those interested in publishing something about technology and its >> impact in the classroom related to Sage (or anything else). This is for >> PRIMUS. Both guest editors are familiar with Sage, WeBWorK, and other open >> source systems. Note June 15 deadline. >> - kcrisman > > Hi, > > I was thinking of writing something for this, but when I read the > description below, which says things like the following: > > - "This issue will not consider specific technologies..." > > - "Papers should specifically speak to the impact of the technology > on student learning, evaluation of the nature of the success of the > technology use, ... describe the use of technology and are able to > assess its impact in quantitative ... manners are especially welcome." > > This makes me think that if I were to write a paper about specifically > how Randy Leveque and I have taught two courses this quarter at UW > using SageMathCloud, that such a paper would be instantly rejected > since (1) it is about specific technology, and (2) I'm not a > researcher in education, so I have no clue how to "assess impact in > quantitative" ways. It's like applying for an NSF grant in the > education (rather than math research part) -- no matter how good my > proposal is, they will always be instantly rejected unless the > proposal is really written by somebody in math education, who knows > the research processes. > > I'm not complaining about the way things are, but just pointing out > that this PRIMUS thing at first seems like a potentially interesting > outlet for the very interesting education-related things I'm involved > in, but based on the description, I very much doubt I would have > anything to offer. >
William, I emailed the editors of that issue asking for clarification, and got the following reply from Gavin Larose to your post: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi David, Thanks. I am not on the sage list, and so didn't see that. I would like to comment, though I'm not sure how best to respond. The issue seeks to address no specific technology---it hopes to get articles about a range of uses of technology, so that using SageMathCloud could be a great application to consider. And our goal is to avoid manuscripts that say "I did this and think it went great." We don't expect every manuscript to be strongly quantitatively supported. I actually think that PRIMUS has a hope to be what Stein hopes for, "...a potentially interesting outlet for the very interesting education-related things [that mathematicians are doing]." If you want to post something to that effect back to the sage list, or suggest to me whom I should contact to do that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Gavin ++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I have nothing but respect for research in math education, and the > more social parts of science, and the deep thought they put into their > research methodologies. My wife is just finishing a Ph.D. that > involves a lot of survey methodology (though not in education). But > I know enough to know that it is not my field. > > -- William > > > ... > -- > William Stein > Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-edu" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
