Thanks! So "The issue seeks to address no specific technology-" means "The issue seeks to address many specific technologies-"
Unfortunately I would probably write something that is basically: "I did this and think it went great." I should still write what I had in mind, but as a blog post. William On May 31, 2014 5:55 PM, "David Joyner" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:53 PM, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:27 AM, kcrisman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> An FYI to those interested in publishing something about technology and > its > >> impact in the classroom related to Sage (or anything else). This is for > >> PRIMUS. Both guest editors are familiar with Sage, WeBWorK, and other > open > >> source systems. Note June 15 deadline. > >> - kcrisman > > > > Hi, > > > > I was thinking of writing something for this, but when I read the > > description below, which says things like the following: > > > > - "This issue will not consider specific technologies..." > > > > - "Papers should specifically speak to the impact of the technology > > on student learning, evaluation of the nature of the success of the > > technology use, ... describe the use of technology and are able to > > assess its impact in quantitative ... manners are especially welcome." > > > > This makes me think that if I were to write a paper about specifically > > how Randy Leveque and I have taught two courses this quarter at UW > > using SageMathCloud, that such a paper would be instantly rejected > > since (1) it is about specific technology, and (2) I'm not a > > researcher in education, so I have no clue how to "assess impact in > > quantitative" ways. It's like applying for an NSF grant in the > > education (rather than math research part) -- no matter how good my > > proposal is, they will always be instantly rejected unless the > > proposal is really written by somebody in math education, who knows > > the research processes. > > > > I'm not complaining about the way things are, but just pointing out > > that this PRIMUS thing at first seems like a potentially interesting > > outlet for the very interesting education-related things I'm involved > > in, but based on the description, I very much doubt I would have > > anything to offer. > > > > William, I emailed the editors of that issue asking for clarification, > and got the following reply from Gavin Larose to your post: > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Hi David, > > Thanks. I am not on the sage list, and so didn't see that. I would like > to comment, though I'm not sure how best to respond. The issue seeks to > address no specific technology---it hopes to get articles about a range of > uses of technology, so that using SageMathCloud could be a great > application to consider. And our goal is to avoid manuscripts that say "I > did this and think it went great." We don't expect every manuscript to be > strongly quantitatively supported. I actually think that PRIMUS has a > hope to be what Stein hopes for, "...a potentially interesting outlet for > the very interesting education-related things [that mathematicians are > doing]." > > If you want to post something to that effect back to the sage list, or > suggest to me whom I should contact to do that, I'd appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Gavin > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > I have nothing but respect for research in math education, and the > > more social parts of science, and the deep thought they put into their > > research methodologies. My wife is just finishing a Ph.D. that > > involves a lot of survey methodology (though not in education). But > > I know enough to know that it is not my field. > > > > -- William > > > > > > > > ... > > > -- > > William Stein > > Professor of Mathematics > > University of Washington > > http://wstein.org > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-edu" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-edu" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
