I successfully checked out ticket #8723 and ran "make".   In order to
review the changes I need to know what the changes are on this ticket.
 As I discovered elsewhere, the instruction in the developer's guide
to give the command "./sage -dev diff" does not work as suggested
there, it gives 0 output, and what instead you have to do is ./sage
-dev diff --base master.  Well, I just did tat and the output is 38137
lines long.  That's right, nearly forty thousand lines.

I tried using git log to give a git hash instead of the branch name
"master" but all that I tried gave the error message that the has was
not a valid branch on the remote system.  But using plain git I could
do

git diff 0c6fcdf462e329c80eeaf2841ac1659308

having guessed from git log that this hash was a reasonable place to
start from, and that did give a sensible output, as did

git diff HEAD^

and similar.  But to review a ticket we need to know how far back to
go in this, and how do we do that?

I am tempted to kill this branch, and do some real work, and get back
to Sage development when it is easier to use.  I do realise that
several people have spent hundreds of hours on this over the last
year, but the system is not yet ready for use by others, it seems.
But surely we need more people to try out the new system -- other than
the ones who wrote the new system -- and give feedback, which is what
I have been trying to do.  So I will remain optimistic and hope that
my comments will be taken as a constructive contribution, which is how
they are intended!

John

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