Yooooooooooo !

> I don't know tig.

Try it, it's cool !

> I am happy using git itself, but it seems that we
> are telling developers that they have a choice: learn git and just use
> it, or just use the sage-dev interface which will provide all you need
> (or almost all) if you don't want to learn git.  If we do keep that
> choice, then the second option has to work, be documented, and do
> everything which is needed.  (Such as: tell me what changes are
> introduced by the commits on this ticket, so that I can review the
> ticket.)

Yesyes you are totally right, I just tried to help with what I could,
considering that I don't know them and use git directly.

Personally, I don't think that those dev scripts are a very good idea, for
I don't think they simplify a lot of things and that people may encounter
bugs who can only be solved by using git directly. Plus there is something
I learned from the notebook, and from Sage code as well too : you can
*NEVER* trust any tool that the developpers do not use for themselves.
At some point we discovered stupid bugs in the notebook that appeared when
you wanted to print matrices, and that was during Sage days, the only
moment when the developpers seem to use the notebook. And well, whatever
the developpers use for themselves will be improved over time, and I really
believe that what they only provide for users and not for themselves will
always be broken, or unreliable.

Actually, this all means that I will only believe in the usefulness of the
dev scripts if we end up using them. In this case they can become totally
cool things indeed. But well. Right now, the dev scripts have (necessarily)
been developped by experiences git users, as a service to all others ^^;

> If the current state of affairs is that the dev scripts are still
> under construction, so that for the time being Sage development is
> only possible by using git directly, then this needs stating very
> clearly.  I was under the impression that the dev scripts were ready
> for use, and was testing this proposition by trying to use them.

Well. You trying them can only help I guess. I mean. All the bugs that they
*might* contain will have to be found and fixed, and doing so quickly can
only help.

Nathann

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