Indeed, that was a great suggestion: 9.8.beta6 works - and it seems that 
#16522 was already in 9.8.beta6.  However 9.8.beta6 + #34547 fails.
Not sure where to go from here.  Should I open a ticket on trac?

For me personally, this is a blocker, but I have no idea how many emacs 
users there are.

Martin


On Tuesday, 24 January 2023 at 10:21:11 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> Thank you for this suggestion!  I will try with 9.8.beta6 + #33842.  I 
> hope that all dependencies are in the branch.
>
> Martin
>
> On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 21:32:10 UTC+1 John H Palmieri wrote:
>
>> Could it be #34547, #16522, or #33842? I'm just taking guesses based on 
>> the newly merged tickets.
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:42:37 AM UTC-8 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From someone called mantepse in the sage-shell-mode 
>>> <https://github.com/sagemath/sage-shell-mode/issues/69#issuecomment-1400278482>
>>>  issue 
>>> on github :
>>>
>>> ```
>>> It is really strange: I have a 9.8.beta7 build and a 9.8.beta6 build. 
>>> Apparently, if I first use the beta6 one for sage-shell-mode, I can then 
>>> use beta7 in the same emacs session.
>>> ```
>>>
>>> I don't get it either...
>>>
>>> There are two short Python files in the current `sahe-shell-mode` emacs 
>>> package, which are my prime suspects for an incompatibility with Python 
>>> 3.11. Now for a strategy for debugging *this*...
>>>
>>> Any idea ?
>>>
>>> Le lundi 23 janvier 2023 à 10:48:48 UTC+1, [email protected] a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Emacs stopped working for me again!  I don't get it.
>>>>
>>>> This is terrible.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 14:41:04 UTC+1 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This patches fix my Fricas issue indeed. But losing the Emacs 
>>>>> interface is a big hit for me, so I revert to 9.6.beta6 for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you nevertheless !
>>>>>
>>>>> Le vendredi 20 janvier 2023 à 22:58:53 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the hopes that this will fix it, I opened 
>>>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34927.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 1:46:02 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this change fix the fricas.py failure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py 
>>>>>>> b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>>> index dc2ce71f26..ceba6f90dc 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>>> +++ b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>>> @@ -891,7 +891,7 @@ http://fricas.sourceforge.net.
>>>>>>>          """
>>>>>>>          EXAMPLES::
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -            sage: fricas.__reduce__()                               
>>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>>> +            sage: FriCAS().__reduce__()                             
>>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>              (<function reduce_load_fricas at 0x...>, ())
>>>>>>>              sage: f, args = _                                       
>>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>              sage: f(*args) 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 12:34:21 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apart from the  Emacs issye alteady reported 
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/sage-release/c/QRjzctTlVeU/m/MKACzqcVAQAJ>,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I get the three permanent failures I reported for the previous betas, 
>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>> well as a new one, which gives three errors :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> charpent@zen-book-flip:/usr/local/sage-9$ sage -t --long 
>>>>>>>> --warn-long 259.6 --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py  # 3 doctests failed
>>>>>>>> Running doctests with ID 2023-01-20-20-50-00-ee865d6d.
>>>>>>>> Git branch: develop
>>>>>>>> Git ref: 9.8.beta7
>>>>>>>> Running with SAGE_LOCAL='/usr/local/sage-9/local' and 
>>>>>>>> SAGE_VENV='/usr/local/sage-9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.10'
>>>>>>>> Using 
>>>>>>>> --optional=debian,dot2tex,fricas,gap_packages,libsemigroups,mathics,mathics_scanner,msolve,palettable,pint,pip,saclib,sage,sage_spkg
>>>>>>>> Features to be detected: 
>>>>>>>> 4ti2,benzene,bliss,buckygen,conway_polynomials,csdp,cvxopt,database_cremona_ellcurve,database_cremona_mini_ellcurve,database_cubic_hecke,database_jones_numfield,database_knotinfo,dvipng,gfan,graphviz,imagemagick,jupymake,kenzo,latte_int,lrslib,mcqd,meataxe,msolve,nauty,palp,pandoc,pdf2svg,pdftocairo,phitigra,plantri,polytopes_db,polytopes_db_4d,pynormaliz,python_igraph,rubiks,sage.combinat,sage.geometry.polyhedron,sage.graphs,sage.groups,sage.misc.cython,sage.plot,sage.rings.number_field,sage.rings.padics,sage.rings.real_double,sage.symbolic,sage_numerical_backends_coin,sagemath_doc_html,sphinx,tdlib
>>>>>>>> Doctesting 1 file.
>>>>>>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 259.6 
>>>>>>>> --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 894, in 
>>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>>     fricas.__reduce__()                                           # 
>>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 695, in _run
>>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[0]>", 
>>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>>         fricas.__reduce__()                                         
>>>>>>>>   # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/lib/python3.10/copyreg.py", line 76, in _reduce_ex
>>>>>>>>         raise TypeError(f"cannot pickle {cls.__name__!r} object")
>>>>>>>>     TypeError: cannot pickle 'LazyImport' object
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 896, in 
>>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>>     f, args = _                                                   # 
>>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 695, in _run
>>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[1]>", 
>>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>>         f, args = _                                                 
>>>>>>>>   # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>>     TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable int object
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 897, in 
>>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>>     f(*args)                                                      # 
>>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 695, in _run
>>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[2]>", 
>>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>>         f(*args)                                                   
>>>>>>>>    # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>>     NameError: name 'f' is not defined
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>>> 1 item had failures:
>>>>>>>>    3 of   4 in sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>>>     [277 tests, 3 failures, 42.89 s]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 259.6 
>>>>>>>> --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py  # 3 doctests failed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Total time for all tests: 48.0 seconds
>>>>>>>>     cpu time: 4.2 seconds
>>>>>>>>     cumulative wall time: 42.9 seconds
>>>>>>>> Features detected for doctesting: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2023 à 00:48:25 UTC+1, Volker Braun a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
>>>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should probably gear up for a 9.8 release soon, so get your 
>>>>>>>>> tickets ready ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 047281e0287 (trac/develop, tag: 9.8.beta7) Updated SageMath 
>>>>>>>>> version to 9.8.beta7
>>>>>>>>> 272c557d1f3 Trac #31668: Run TestSuite on polynomial rings
>>>>>>>>> 6f8fb9ba3ef Trac #22067: generating function of integral points of 
>>>>>>>>> polyhedra
>>>>>>>>> 5544a33b815 Trac #21003: Add package pyscipopt, add MIP backend
>>>>>>>>> b0422b2536b Trac #34838: setuptools_scm, contourpy, 
>>>>>>>>> sphinxcontrib_websupport, typing_extensions: Add missing dependencies
>>>>>>>>> 30d58156a46 Trac #34717: Check the presence of lrsnash for 
>>>>>>>>> obtain_nash()
>>>>>>>>> c7299453922 Trac #34891: fixing some E502 in tensor, dynamics, 
>>>>>>>>> modules, plot, numerical
>>>>>>>>> bc832cb3578 Trac #34889: Installation guide: On WSL, clear /mnt/c 
>>>>>>>>> stuff from PATH
>>>>>>>>> 3570a9a63bd Trac #34881: allow to remove no constraints
>>>>>>>>> 0ceb1032430 Trac #34878: MixedIntegerLinearProgram.add_constraint: 
>>>>>>>>> Option to return row indices, fix handling of empty constraints
>>>>>>>>> df74efb66d2 Trac #34859: sagelib: Remove unnecessary import of 
>>>>>>>>> typing_extensions
>>>>>>>>> b6a76d7a848 Trac #34857: bump giac's GIAC_MIN_VERSION to 1.9
>>>>>>>>> 6a8155e6e5d Trac #34854: molien_series() should not use GAP's 
>>>>>>>>> VirtualCharacter
>>>>>>>>> dddf3ca0b08 Trac #34853: sage-env: Fix misconfiguration of pip
>>>>>>>>> 6f631021ac4 Trac #34847: modernize some for loops in cython files
>>>>>>>>> 9ffabc7f3e1 Trac #34844: removal of some unused imports about 
>>>>>>>>> string conversion
>>>>>>>>> 4b50bc2af27 Trac #34843: pep8 cleanup in ore_polynomial_element.pyx
>>>>>>>>> bdd14cec19b Trac #34837: fix E502 in some pyx files
>>>>>>>>> 172ad73ae38 Trac #34836: fix E271 and E272 in rings/ and schemes/
>>>>>>>>> 3d861266040 Trac #34749: Packages dsdp, scip_sdp
>>>>>>>>> 64d232b5bfd Trac #31329: Update scipoptsuite to 8.0.2 (now open 
>>>>>>>>> source!), rename to scip
>>>>>>>>> 2dcafb3ac57 Trac #34839: Support tox 4
>>>>>>>>> ad68f15d97f Trac #34648: Developer's guide: warn the transition to 
>>>>>>>>> GitHub and add links to the transition guide
>>>>>>>>> acebbc1a9e8 Trac #34824: do not include parent in hash of parking 
>>>>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>>> 9a7b6310dde Trac #34818: Error when defining differentials over 
>>>>>>>>> GCA's with relations.
>>>>>>>>> bb63c582122 Trac #34807: Add Construction of Hadamard matrices up 
>>>>>>>>> to order 664
>>>>>>>>> 8a0b16d93be Trac #34804: Deprecate sage.interfaces is_...Element 
>>>>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>>> 80f8f950e95 Trac #34793: clean 3 files inside modular
>>>>>>>>> b0cc282500e Trac #34547: Interfaces: use more lazy imports, 
>>>>>>>>> restore top-level functions maxima_console etc.
>>>>>>>>> 5905da7ebfc Trac #33915: inseparable elliptic-curve isogenies
>>>>>>>>> 98b22ebdcf7 Trac #32826: scalar-multiplication endomorphisms of 
>>>>>>>>> elliptic curves
>>>>>>>>> 4f11a750df9 Trac #8744: Improve add_edge in BipartiteGraph to make 
>>>>>>>>> it independent from the current coloring
>>>>>>>>> 08aa2f8edaa Trac #33842: Upgrade python to 3.11
>>>>>>>>> 75bedf95960 Trac #34783: various details in combinat/
>>>>>>>>> 33fa8715bd5 Trac #34742: Optional package soplex (dependency of 
>>>>>>>>> scip)
>>>>>>>>> f84915f69d8 Trac #34726: Optional package papilo (dependency of 
>>>>>>>>> scip)
>>>>>>>>> e5cf1c0d9f2 Trac #34694: Bug in ExteriorAlgebra interior product
>>>>>>>>> ebb9b611d02 Trac #34416: Manage pexpect logs created during 
>>>>>>>>> doctesting
>>>>>>>>> 962177a2da1 Trac #33907: interfaces/expect.py random test failure
>>>>>>>>> 66409243991 Trac #16522: lazy_import doesn't resolve properly when 
>>>>>>>>> indirectly imported
>>>>>>>>> 2114066f877 (tag: 9.8.beta6) Updated SageMath version to 9.8.beta6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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