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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 01:32:03 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [saham] S&P berulah lagi

Oiya ya..bener juga.. :) 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mikail <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:38:56 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [saham] S&P berulah lagi

Iyaaa.... tambah satu lagi khan jadi dua :)
itu maksud saya.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
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>
> ** Dia dah punya Moody's..makanya Moody's saya pikir ga akan nurunin
> rating siapapun :)
>
> Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Mikail <[email protected]>
> *Sender: * [email protected]
> *Date: *Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:12:25 +0700
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *ReplyTo: * [email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: [saham] S&P berulah lagi
>
>
>
> S&P kyknya harus dibeli sama Buffett aja deh.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Musicallypso <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> ktnya berkhisre jg negative outlook oleh S & P.....biar kgk bs ngomel2 lg
>> tuh buffett dikasi negative outlook
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Mikail <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Stubborn & Pathetic :p
>>> I couldn't agree more... xixixi
>>>
>>> (btw, mr + jingkrak2 nih denger ini, soal si fannie dan si freddie)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Dimas Yoga 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> S&P downgrades Fannie and Freddie, US-backed debt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-to-review-ratings-for-apf-1344749763.html;_ylt=AuLYbVLghgARDWwHIAD42uK7YWsA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3NjdqZG5zBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNicmVha2luZ05ld3MEc2xrA3NhbXBwZG93bmdyYQ--?x=0
>>>>
>>>> Dari sekian banyak lembaga pemeringkat sepertinya S&P lagi kurang
>>>> harmonis hubungannya nih sama pemerintah AS. Sebagaimana diketahui S&P
>>>> dikuasai oleh kubu Republik yang merupakan oposisi kubu Demokrat yang
>>>> berkuasa saat ini. Tapi semoga saja tidak ada aroma politik didalamnya,
>>>> hehe
>>>>
>>>> Fitch sama Moody's sementara ini masih adem ayem belom ketularan latah
>>>> downgrade yang dikeluarkan S&P. Semoga saja masih diamnya Fitch dan Moody
>>>> tidak menyimpan bom waktu yang akan digunakan untuk menekan Dow dikemudian
>>>> hari (setiap Dow rebond dikit langsung diguyur sama bad news) hehe..
>>>>
>>>> Bahkan pelaku pasar di Amerika sendiri banyak yang kontra dengan
>>>> keputusan S&P mendowngrade Fannie & Freddie. Komentar dari beberapa
>>>> pengunjung Yahoo :
>>>>
>>>> *"I know I sound crazy here, but why dont we just wage war on Standard
>>>> and Poor??? There downgrade poses a threat to the well being of the United
>>>> States and ultimately the world market. That very threat could be construed
>>>> as being one of terror. I know it sounds crazy, I myself see it as such, 
>>>> but
>>>> entered Iraq and liberated on terms that really didnt add up. Dictatorship
>>>> and tyranny isnt what I am looking for, but if this country were to fall
>>>> from grace on this very credit rating and other countries have seen this
>>>> credit rating harm their economic balance why not just declare war on the
>>>> agency. "*
>>>>
>>>> *"If you're affected by all this, you know what to do with S&P (the
>>>> "Stubborn & Pathetic")"*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *"if s&p was so reliable why were we not downgraded when the savings
>>>> and loan companies collasped in the 80's remember them biggest govt bailout
>>>> so this seems to be more politics than saying the worlds largest economy 
>>>> and
>>>> a gdp of over 15 trillion is not a safe bet then hey go invest in russia or
>>>> china or north korea or somalia those seem like well run places that will
>>>> protect you and give you rights lol"*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *"Hows that hope and change working for ya America, thanks community
>>>> organizer and chief for stealing my retirement."*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *It's the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks, politicians. I'll be sure
>>>> to share my appreciation come November 2012.*
>>>>
>>>> *"The S&P is a loser, after all they showed what they knew when they
>>>> rated toxic assets AAA. I wonder what the GOP is paying them to cause the
>>>> stock market to fall so their wealthy patrons can buy it cheap and make
>>>> another load of money pushing it up, and getting institutions buying in to
>>>> make up for their loses. BOYCOTT WALLSTREET"*
>>>>
>>>> Bahkan ada yang berpikir mungkin kredibilitas S&P yang perlu
>>>> di-downgrade :
>>>>
>>>> *"lmao. S&P are the ones who rated junk mortgage back securities that
>>>> Fannie was securing AAA.
>>>> think it's about time we downgrade S&P"*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Boleh percaya boleh engga, tapi kita coba lihat reaksi pasar IHSG besok,
>>>> apakah pengaruh S&P masih cukup kuat untuk kembali menekan pasar kita? 
>>>> Kalau
>>>> boleh ikut lembaga pemeringkat, saya lebih baik ikut PEFINDO aja deh yang
>>>> asli Iindonesia, enak aja turunin peringkat di Amerika tapi menekan pasar
>>>> dan cari barang murah di negeri orang, hehe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer ON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Salam,
>>>> Dimas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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