Ouch! My thinking bears no relation to the thinking of your particular American School System or whatever....!!! Cant vouch for Rico's thinking.....I was just stating facts as I saw, knew & know them. I usually avoid most sites & this one will be no exception......I am not for corporal punishment, ..... do please read the line of my posting -
"Then we had "abuse" 50 years ago & it continues in other ways too. I guess the "abused" adults are now striving to change all this & help the kids ...more power to us all!" I am one of those adults & I prefer to follow the "dont let the right hand know what the left hand is doing".... I've already touched on this in one of my postings (Patsy thought it had personal overtones...no offence Patsy & none taken or given now...Quentin please note). That some are forced to be in the forefront to get things done, one cannot deny.... without such people, others would not get a chance to work behind the scenes, that is a foregone conclusion! Presumably, the initial posting made by Dilip (vis-a-vis material on abuse within the Catholic community in Malta or worldwide) without Saligao-related "tones" has now entered the broader spectrum - abuse of all kinds in relation to children & adults(women?) in Saligao, - hence the discussion? I reiterate - all the best to all who are doing their bit & who will continue to do so................... AMEN! Yeh, read Godfrey's posting on Goanet a couple of days ago... picked up the mining bit but guess some of it does relate to Saligao....presume SaligaoNet will see a number of postings hereafter - ample grist for the mill? Cant wait...... Quentin! the recycling bit...I am a bit confused... "new discovery?" ...thought this was old hat! So where is your "there"? & where is your "here"? & whilst I am asking whereabouts, where is Dilip based now?....in Abu Dhabi doing research or back to Pavilion? Hmm! I dont know where that is either!! Well I hope all had a good celebration in Dubai today & the Saliganvkars had a pleasant "meet & greet" occasion. Time to get ready for a celebration - a little angel kid received her First Holy Communion this morning (pity there were no Saliganvkars amongst all the angelic children....but there were quite a few Goan children not forgetting the Goan parish priest). Is the above para ok? Fathers/Moderators of SaligaoNet? It is not Saligao-related of course but perhaps I should also join in bending a few rules once in a while... & maybe this will get through this time since our on-going subject is "CHILDREN" (Global ..as Quentin put it & other parts of the world as Dilip put it) Ciao Annette Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 08:35:20 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] Saligao-related issues To: [email protected] Amen To you Annette and Rico, and guess what ????...... there is a school system in Dallas, Texas, USA, who thinks alike and wants to bring corporal punishment back (go figure), for those who are interested visit the website bringbacklicks.com. Mario & Muriel, your money is where your mouth is, and I am humbled by the efforts and action you and others have taken and continue to take, please accept my "KEEP IT UP". In my little way I contribute to the Catholic Church which is a geared to do the very same things. So why reinvent the wheel ? just hone it. Do you think starting another organisation which will grow into a corporation with indulgences and cover ups is a good idea. Unless the plan is just for children in Saligao and not the rest of the world (every situation is global today). That is good too, just moving the elephant to another room for someone else to deal with. Mario if you know of any organisation which is helping to see that every child is getting at least one wholesome meal a day, let me know I would like to work with them. There is a lot of things being done right there, take recycling for instance, when I was there it was way of life but here it is like a new discovery. All the best Quentin --- On Thu, 5/6/10, ANNETTE D'SOUZA <[email protected]> wrote: From: ANNETTE D'SOUZA <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] Saligao-related issues To: "Saligaon Foxy news" <[email protected]> Received: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 3:18 AM Aha! Finally! I fully agree with most of your paragraphs, Rico. What is termed "Abuse" today was known as "Discipline" yesterday or yesteryears!!! Scenario of our time - which means we were all "abused" then, whether at home or in school... and I am none the worse for that, ....dont know about the rest of you. Like Rico, I dont hold any grudges either & being "disciplined" we benefitted from that but we are now able to empathize with today's "abused" kids & want to change things for the better. Would a clout on the head or a box on the ears, or the pegging of lips together with a clothes peg (to prevent us from talking & disrupting the class) or rubbing chilly powder on the lips come under the heading of "abuse"? Then we had "abuse" 50 years ago & it continues in other ways too. I guess the "abused" adults are now striving to change all this & help the kids ...more power to us all! "The spare the rod & spoil the child" logic is no longer that.......we now live in a different world Rico! & Saligao is part of that world. I believe that the one characteristic of a good teacher doesnt change or shouldnt change, whether he/she is young or old....Patience. By the way, Rico - the five rounds around the football ground! ....was it at a "run" pace or a "walk" pace??? At that time both would be punishment, discipline...call it what you will. I am sure some of us do more rounds than that everyday or at least 5 times a week & take it in our stride - today the rounds would be considered a very important form of exercise leading to healthy living......wouldnt it? ....the logic behind it being - a healthy mind lives in a healthy body, or vice versa ... a healthy body makes for a healthy mind. We have reached our weekend quite quickly & am I glad! Have a good day! Annette > Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 03:19:14 +0530 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Saligao-related issues > > MnM wrote: > > > As part of the Mapusa based, Child Rights Group, > > Roland Martins persuaded Gerard to file a simple complaint > > with the Mapusa police. Gerard did and the complaint was used > > as a basis to take the matter up with the school. > > Mario represented the Delaneys in the official enquiry > > that followed with regular hearings that lasted a few months. > > Result: the master was suspended and has not set foot in St. > > Britto's again, thus saving generations of students expensive > > dental treatment for life! > > As far as this goes,I think it has a lot to do with our ideas of what is > the "right" and "wrong" approach to bring up children. > > These days, it's fashionable to be liberal and give in a lot to > children. In our times, we grew up with a lot of strictness, > particularly in a Jesuit institution like Brittos. Yet, I bear > absolutely no grudge against the institution and our teachers, and in > fact feel grateful that it taught me a great many things in life. > > A lot of parents speak out against "corporal" punishment in schools > today, and would term it abuse. Personally, I feel the teachers need to > have some leeway to operate, even as we parents appreciate how difficult > it can be to get across a point across to a child in these times -- when > the kids get bombarded with all kinds of messages. > > Is a rap on the knuckles more harmful than a remark in the calendar > which scars a child in emotional ways? Is it better to correct a child > on time, rather than fail him in Std VIII and have a suicide before you > know it? (One such case was reported in the neighbouring village of > Parra last month-end.) > > Whatever happened to the spare-the-rod ... logic :-) Or do we have > fashions-of-the-day in child rearing too? (Apparently Benjamin Spock is > not treated with much respect nowadays, someone who knows better could > clarify.) > > The teacher mentioned in the above case was my teacher too. He was a > good scoutmaster and PT teacher, if a bit on the strict side. (Those of > us who were pushed out from Lourdes Convent at Std VI/VII for a > compulsory migration to some place like Britto's know of how > 'indiscipline' on the ground was treated -- five rounds around the > football ground!) > > I think teachers are much more patient when they're younger, but perhaps > the school-routine results in burnout and cycnicism over the years! > Something needs to be done to make their work less soul-killing! 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