On this particular check it turned out we had a standard alert (when
down x times/and when back up too) as well as another alert that was set
to "when back up after a down".  Both alerts were behaving exactly as
they should have.  The results were unexpected since the alerts were not
configured in our standard manner.

-Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> 
> 
> It's important to know that check the "and when back up too" 
> is different from selecting "when back up after a down".
> 
> The "and when back up too" is in combination with another 
> "WHEN" and will only fire IF the "WHEN" that is selected was 
> actualy fired.  The "when back up after a down" will send a 
> <mail/page/...> when you get an up after a down, even if no 
> alert was "fired" for that down.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Kevin Stone
> Sent: Wed Jun 25 8:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> 
> 
> As usual Dirk you're correct.  I found a stray alert entry 
> that may be causing my issue, I'll need to test more to be sure.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:43 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> >
> >
> > That's not correct.  The "when back up too" is only trigger IF the 
> > down alert is send too.
> >
> >
> > dirk.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Kevin Stone
> > Sent: Wed Jun 25 7:28 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> >
> >
> > Is it a "Down" alert or an "Up" alert?  When "and when 
> backup too" is 
> > checked SA will send an up alert every time the threshold 
> is crossed 
> > even if it does not send a down alert because it hasn't reached the 
> > consecutive cycles limit.  I see this a bit with one of our 
> machines.  
> > I will get email saying the CPU is below 90% even though I 
> did not get 
> > and email saying it was above 90%.  There isn't any way to get
> > around this that I know of.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Gregg Nicholas
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried the suggestions made by Kevin and Dirk.  It 
> greatly reduced 
> > > the false reports of problems on the server, but I'm not
> > sure that the
> > > counter is being reset correctly.
> > >
> > > The test is as follows:
> > > General: 192.168.7.19, connect via LAN, Keep connection alive
> > > Check: NT perfmon, Processor,% Processor Time,0, > 99, 
> timeout 30, 
> > > second knock
> > > Alert: SMTP when 10 times down and then every 10 cycles
> > > Schedule: every minute
> > >
> > > I've gradually increased the number of down events before
> > the alert is
> > > supposed to trigger.  When I watch the CPU utilization with
> > taskmgr,
> > > it is almost always at 0%.  It will spike - perhaps every
> > few minutes
> > > - but it quickly drops back to 0%.
> > >
> > > It's very unlikely that it actually hits 100% on each of 10
> > successive
> > > checks.  Nevertheless, I've gotten several alerts today.
> > Perhaps the
> > > very act of checking cpu utilization can cause it to hit 100% - 
> > > without lasting long enough to show up on taskmgr?
> > >
> > > Is there some better way to do this?
> > > Is there perhaps a counter that I can check for the average CPU 
> > > utilization over the last 5 minutes?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gregg Nicholas
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Behalf Of Kevin
> > Stone
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 17:12
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] perfmon cpu utilization check
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When you set up the alert you can set it to alert after x
> > number or
> > > > checks.  Then at the very bottom of the box off to the
> > right is the
> > > > checkbox "and when back up too".  I do the same thing for
> > > CPU alerts.
> > > >
> > > > -Kevin
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