But your suggestion is almost impossible when you run as a service....  If
an alert has been generated, the app should assume it was received..



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The problem is?. how does SA know that you knew that it was still down.

Perhaps you are doing maintenance from afar (using vnc or term serv) and
reboot the server.  When it comes up you have assumed (which I am sure no
one on this list would do) it is fixed and did not get an alert letting you
know (because you already got one and you told Dirk to change it so it
didn't send you another one).

This is the dilemma and I believe it is better to err on the side of
caution.

Putting these entries into maintenance mode would be the best option.  If
you know they are still broke quit monitoring them until they are fixed (or
at least you think they are).  Once put back into active mode you will get
an alert saying it is still down if you were wrong and it still does not
work.  If it is up you will not get a down alert and your problem is now
solved.  This is how it should work and I am sure that this why there is
such a thing as maintenance mode.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Riley, Stephen
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:38 PM
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This is what I asked a couple of weeks ago too.

I am siding with Troy. We have people here that rather than put SA in
maintenance will just shut it down and when we find this and start it up we
are alerted regarding all the down conditions that we were already aware
of.

The checks are set to alert when down and when back up. So we have been
alerted about the down, but upon a restart we are then alerted again.



-----Original Message-----
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He already got the alert that it was down.  Then started server's alive
again why should he get more down alerts.

(I am just arguing his point not taking sides.)

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Of Dirk Bulinckx
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It is realy down, so were is the problem?


dirk.



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Hello,

Maybe this has already been asked, and I missed it...


Currently it appears that SA tracks the current state of a device in RAM
while it's running...  The problem is..  If I have 20-30 devices that are
currently down, and I stop the SA application to make a change, then
re-start it, I now get another 20-30 alerts for devices I already know are
down...  Would tracking device state via a "database/flatfile" be an
option??

Thanks,
Troy




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