"I believe that Dirk was talking about adding a feature to SA on the next major release that would send an alert if a service, or process was started, a kind of a negative alert..."
=> in v5 there will be an inverse check, this means that the check is done normaly (as with v4) just at the end a detect down becomes an UP and a detected up becomes a DOWN. So with that you could indeed get an DOWN alert when a service is running (inverse of alerting when the service is not running). Dirk. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Marsden Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Redundant SA's Jason, I recall this discussion...and I always felt that this would be my last resort, because it isn't a positive alert. Basically, you would need to respond to NOT getting emails. Honestly, I would kind of kind of "tone out" receiving the emails... I believe that Dirk was talking about adding a feature to SA on the next major release that would send an alert if a service, or process was started, a kind of a negative alert...(I plan on using it to make sure that my backup jobs aren't getting too long, or are hung and to make sure that users haven't started services I don't allow in networks, like messengers)...but is there a way to use this proposed feature to monitor a process or a service that SA uses to run the checks, or to update the web page, if you use an output page?..maybe the FTP service? Jonathan Marsden Part-Time Geeks Computer Services www.ptgeeks.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Passow Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Redundant SA's Another option previously discussed is just to create a check on your main SA machine (maybe ping 127.0.0.1) and set the alert to always. Then when you stop getting mails either your tcp/ip stack broke or your SA is no longer checking. You would get a lot of unnecessary emails but this is the only I can be sure that it is running. Create a rule to have them put in a folder and clean out the folder every day. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SA-list] Redundant SA's What I do is have the primary SA output an HTML page containing just enough code to be included in an ASP page with the lastcyclestart time (and other variables) after each cycle. Then I have an ASP page that calculates the datediff between the SA output and Now(). If good, then the ASP page writes "OK" to the browser in HTML, and "ERROR" if the datediff is too old. Then the secondary SA does a HTML check looking for the contents of my asp page. If it contains "ERROR" then I know that the primary SA hasn't updated recently. Because SA writes the HTML output as a last step, this is a reasonably good check that all is well. This is also extremely good for checking for horrendously long cycles, that while technically ARE running, they are just taking too long. If you're interested, I can zip up the files and send them to you offlist. Michael Shook Technical Analyst Saddle Creek Corporation 723 Joe Tamplin Industrial Blvd Macon GA 31217 478 742 8740 ext. 105 (work) 478 256 9318 (mobile) 478 742 7917 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.saddlecrk.com >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/03/04 11:15AM >>> I am looking for a way to have one SA box check another SA box to ensure that SA is running. I looked at SAIsAlive but I really want something to send an Alarm to show that SA is down. I thought about checking the service but thought that if it was hung it may show as running. I was wondering if there was a way to have SA look at the log file and note that the date/time has changed or really any creative idea anyone has would be appreciated. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive ---------------------------------------- My Inbox is protected by SPAMfighter 512 spam mails have been blocked so far. Download free www.spamfighter.com today! --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive
