When we actually switch to a rack mount unit for the servers(we have only towers taking up space), we'll move to Network based APC UPS units, but for now, this is all I've got to deal with. Thanks again for all the help.
Frank Brower Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:06 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS Ah, so this is a continuation of the situation from a few weeks ago? If so, then my answer stands now as it did then: Copied from 5/14/07:----------------------------- As a last note I don't believe the SNMP checks will be available on the older (serial) connection directly. This isn't a "real" data connection, APC just uses some of the control lines to signal "on/off Battery" and "powered on/off". Actually, I'm surprised it's available on the USB one. This is an "undocumented feature" of the PowerChute software, and I had limitied success getting it to work in my shop. That is why we switched over to the Network Management cards. Much cleaner and you can access the UPS directly from Internet Explorer. Also, pretty cheap (Insight lists the AP9617 @ $240). Also, also, since a server problem can deny you access to the UPS using PowerChute, moving to the card will give you a much more reliable picture of what's actually going on in the UPS by accesssing it directly. As a side note, 2 advantages of the cards are the ability to use a simple reed switch (door alarm) to signal when the server rack door was opened and a temperature/humidity guage to tell when the TELCO closet was over heating. ------------------------------------- Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:31 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS To the battery level, yes, to anything else I try, I get a NoSuchName error. Frank Brower Network Administrator Olson Research Group 300 Phillips Blvd. Suite 100 Ewing, NJ 08618 609-882-9888 Fax: 609-359-2003 -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:21 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS And does your UPS "answer" to SNMP GET requests when connected via USB/serial? Dirk Bulinckx. -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:06 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS There are 2. On one server, the UPS is connected to it via serial port(its an old server) and the other its connected via USB. Both are having the same issue. Frank Brower Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:26 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS How are you accessing the UPS? (Ups connected to PC, Network management card in UPS, etc...) Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:21 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS I have another question about monitoring an APC UPS unit with Serversalive. I am able to monitor the Battery percentage left, but am unable to monitor output frequency, input frequency and such. I have tried search the net for other OIDs to use with SNMP, but none worked. Does anyone know of any other OIDs I can use with ServersAlive to monitor an APC UPS unit? Frank Brower Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:21 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS Thanks for the input. That worked. I had SNMP running on one machine and not the other. As soon as I installed SNMP on the Server I couldn't monitor, it worked. Thanks for the help. Frank Brower Network Administrator Olson Research Group 300 Phillips Blvd. Suite 100 Ewing, NJ 08618 609-882-9888 Fax: 609-359-2003 -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:51 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS Have you installed PowerChute Business Edition Server on both machines? Do both machines have the Windows SNMP commponents installed and running? If the answer is yes, then no, try installing just the PowerChute Bussiness Edition Agent on the one that currently cant' connect, then adding that server to the other one. (details here: http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/ASTE-6Z5QBJ_R0_EN.pdf) Can you connect to the SNMP port using GetIf? I would also be sure and use GetIf to inspect (and learn) what's going on with the servers. As a last note I don't believe the SNMP checks will be available on the older (serial) connection directly. This isn't a "real" data connection, APC just uses some of the control lines to signal "on/off Battery" and "powered on/off". Actually, I'm surprised it's available on the USB one. This is an "undocumented feature" of the PowerChute software, and I had limitied success getting it to work in my shop. That is why we switched over to the Network Management cards. Much cleaner and you can access the UPS directly from Internet Explorer. Also, pretty cheap (Insight lists the AP9617 @ $240). Also, also, since a server problem can deny you access to the UPS using PowerChute, moving to the card will give you a much more reliable picture of what's actually going on in the UPS by accesssing it directly. As a side note, 2 advantages of the cards are the ability to use a simple reed switch (door alarm) to signal when the server rack door was opened and a temperature/humidity guage to tell when the TELCO closet was over heating. Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:46 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS Thanks for the help. Worked on one Server, which the UPS was connected with a USB cable. The other, an old server, the UPS unit is connected with a Serial(9pin) cable and that one gives and error when testing. Both are running the same version of APC and run Windows 2000 Server. Frank Brower Network Administrator Olson Research Group 300 Phillips Blvd. Suite 100 Ewing, NJ 08618 609-882-9888 Fax: 609-359-2003 -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shook Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:31 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS This assumes that you have a network management card installed. If the back of your UPS has a black metal plate with no markings, you need to install a AP9617, AP9618 or AP9619 network amangement card. Michael D. Shook Systems Analyst - Data Integration Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:26 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS Have a look at http://archive.woodstone.nu/retrievemsg.asp?ID=13761 Dirk Bulinckx. -----Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brower Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:21 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] Monitoring UPS I know this was talked about before, but forget what came of it. I would like to monitor my APC UPS Units with ServersAlive. They are a SmartUPS1400 and SMartUPS 1500 models. I have the standard v6 beta of SA. 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