>On Friday 08 Mar 2002 5:32 pm, you wrote:
>Your sarcasm is directed at the copyright holders of old games. You're 
>asking them to abandon their rights and allow you to copy the game for 
>free. Is this not a favour? What exactly do they owe you?

Did you read my last post in response to sarcasm?!! It most definitely was 
NOT directed at the copyright holders of old games.

>Just because you can download games for other systems, doesn't make it 
>legal. You mentioned JetPac, and Ultimate are one of the companies who most 
>viciously protect their old Spectrum games: you didn't find JetPac at World 
>Of Spectrum.

Correct! I never said I did!!!

>I think the point is that people on this list only want to point out 
>download sites which respect the wishes of the copyright owner. If that 
>wish is that some money goes to charity every time somebody gets a game, 
>then it's their right to say so and you should respect it too.

I would if I knew what games they were referring to!

>Persona negotiated with some programmers to get rights to distribute a 
>number of their titles, when the original publisher(s) went into 
>liquidation. I don't see that the situation should be any different between 
>these titles and the ones developed for Persona specifically.

You don't? Well that's your opinion, which I will respect. Amstrad bought 
the rights to the Sinclair ROM - what would you say if they charged you for 
using that, however indirectly? What would you say if Simon Owen charged you 
for using SIM Coupe?

>Unlike a certain other publisher who allegedly copied the same games and 
>sold them for money, paying no royalties to the programmer. Suffice it to 
>say that there is a *LOT* of history here, some very bitter memories, and I 
>think most of the people who were involved at the time would rather put the 
>circumstances behind them and not get involved with it again.

Fair enough - but I don't know of *ANY* history, so forgive me.

>Part of the problem is that there was so much misinformation and 
>half-truths spread about by a few influential people, that very few people 
>will ever now know exactly who owns what. To the best of my knowledge, 
>Persona negotiated rights to all the Enigma games, the SamCo 
>(original-Revelation) games, everything by Phoenix software systems, and 
>Exodus by Apex. I don't know who owns the Fred titles now, there was a lot 
>of changing-hands a few years ago,

Well that's all I'm trying to find out...


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