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Today's Topics:

   1. Humour in grammar (10) resonses. (peekayar)
   2. PM and the question of foreign origin (peekayar)


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Humour in grammar (10) 
Questions repeated.
 
1.   The following two lines are two questions.
     The same lines contain the answer.
     a)   kaa shiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa
     b)   kaM balavantaM na baadhate shiitam
           Find the answers.  
 
2.   The fourth line of a verse is
      pipiilikaa dantivaraM prasuute 
     meaning - ant gives birth to a big elephant.
     You are required to compose the first three 
     lines of this samasyaa. 
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I received three responses which are reproduced below.
>From Vis Tekumalla.
1 a)   kaa shiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa - 
        Which cold flowing river is Ganga?
        Answer: kaashiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa - 
                 The river that flows at the foot of
                 Benares (kaashii) is Ganga.  
  b)  kaM balavantaM na baadhate shiitam - 
      What strong person does cold not bother?   
      Answer:  kaMbalavantaM na baadhate shiitam 
                  Cold does not bother the person who 
                  is wrapped up in a woolen blanket. 
 
2.      aastiikaH jarutkaaruvoH
        maataa mR^igiH R^iShyashR^ingaM.
        vaarte eShaH ko visheShaH 
        pipiilikaa dantivaraM prasuute.. 
 
Explanation:  
 
The great rishi Aastiika came from (was born to) 
Jaratkaaruvu. Jaratkaaruvu is a snake and Vaasuki's sister. Aastiika was instrumental 
in persuading Janamajeya to stop his "sarpa-yaaga."
The great rishi Rishyashringa came from 
(was born to) a deer. I believe everyone knows
 Rishyashringa's story. (Therefore), what is so special about this news (that) an ant 
gives birth to a big elephant. 
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 From Sai Susarla 
 
1 a)  Question:  kaa shiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa
                        Which cool river is ganga?
      Answer:     kAshiitala vAhinI ga~NgA
                       The river flowing on the surface of
                       kaashii is ganga.

> b)  Question:  kaM balavantaM na baadhate    shiitam
                    Which strong man is not troubled by cold?
      Answer:    kambala-vantaM na bAdhate shiitam
                   Cold won't trouble one with a blanket.

2.   On samasyaa - pass
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>From Aarathi Sankaran
 
I)      a)   kaa shiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa
             kaashI-tala-vAhinI :: ga~NgA flowing in    kAshI
        b)   kaM balavantaM na baadhate shiitam
             kaMbala-vantaM :: cold does not bother a person
            with a blanket
2.          sharkarAsa.Ngrahe dakShA
            kesarItanayo hanti
            vasantakAle ca vR^ikShAH
            pipiilikaa dantivaraM prasuute
 
            asAdhyaM pUrvakAle yat
            tat sarvaM sAdhyameva hi
            tat ko.ayamAscharyam yat
            pipIlikA dantivaraM prasUte
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Answers from  PKR who posted the questions.
 
1.  Q. kaa shiitalavaahinii ga~Nagaa -
       Which Ganga (which part of Ganga) is  
       flowing cold.?
    A.  kAshiitala vAhinI ga~NgA -
        Ganga which flows at the surface of Kasi.
 
    Q.  kaM balavantaM na baadhate shiitam
         Cold troubles not which strong man?
         (Which strong man is not troubled by cold?)
    A.  kambala-vantaM na bAdhate shiitam -
        Cold does not trouble one with a blanket.
 
 2. The first three lines are questions and the 
    last line has the answers.
    a)  kaa khaadate bhuumigataan manuSyaan
         What bites those who walk on the floor?
    b)  kam hanti siMhaH prakaTaprabhaavaH?
        Whom does a powerful lion kill?
    c)  karoti kiMvaa paripuurNagarbhaa ?
        What does a fully pregnant womon do?
    d) pipiilikaa (a), dantivaram (b) prasuute (c)
         ant, a big elephant, gives birth 
 
The first three lines are questions for which the
answers are given by the three words in the last
line.
 
My general comments.
 
Q. 1  Members may themselves decide which one is partly correct, correct or more 
correct.
 
Q.2.  The last line in the samasyaa is a verse containing 11 syllables or aksharaas.  
Therefore the first three lines aslo should have 11 syllables.  The answers given by 
Vis Tekumalla and Aarathi Sankaran do not fulfill this condition. 
 
My thanks to those who participated and to those who must have tried.
 
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
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PM and the question of foreign origin

 

A STORY FROM HITOPADESA 

 

Hitopadesa was written about 1500 years ago. Hitopadesa means good advice. The author 
himself says that he has taken most of the stories from Panchatantra. All situations 
are given in the form of stories using birds and animals as characters. 

 

In the country of land birds a peacock named Chitravarna was the king.  He had a 
visitor called Diirghamukha, a crane from the country of water birds.  Chitravarna’s 
PM was a vulture named Duuradarshi.  He enquired from Diirghamukha who the king and PM 
were in his country. He gave their names as Hiranyagarbha, a swan and Chakrvaaka, a 
goose.  Duuradarshi opined that it was very proper that Chakravaka was the PM as he 
was born in the same country. 

 

He supported this by a saying -

 

svadeshajaM kulaachaara-vishuddhaM upadhaa-shuchim.

mantraj~naM avyasaninaM vyabhichaara-vivarjitam .. 

adhiita-vyavahaaraarthaM maulaM khyaataM vipashchitam.

arthasyotpaadakaM chaiva vidadhyaat mantriNaM nR^ipaH .. 

 

The king should appoint a Prime Minister who should

have the following attributes.

 

svadeshajaH (born in the same country ), 

kulaachaara-vishuddhaH (correct in observing the  

traditions of the family/community/country ), 

upadhaashuchiH (of tested loyalty),  

mantraj~naH (a good advisor), 

avyasanii (not addicted to any vice), 

vyabhichaara-vivarjitaH (not deviating from  the right course), 

adhiitavyavaharaarthaH (well versed  in administrative matters), 

maulaH (of good family), 

khyaataH (a celebrity), 

vipashchit(learned), 

arthasyotpaadakaH (a generator of wealth)

 

Hitopadesha - Section 3 - shlokas 17 and 18

 

P.K.Ramakrishnan



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