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Today's Topics:
1. Re: akshhamAlAm (Ambujam Raman)
2. Need help (Sheela Kalawar)
3. SitarAvanasamvada jharii introduction contd 7 (peekayar)
4. Re: Need help (peekayar)
5. Re: akshhamAlAm (peekayar)
6. sarada bhujangam translation verse 5 (peekayar)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:43:25 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] akshhamAlAm
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Jay/Sethuramanji:
That karetvakShamAlAM is not a bahuvrIhi or tatpurSha is accepted. But
akShamAlA (akShANAM mAlA) is a bahuvrIhi (akShamAlA yasya taaM). The rest is
plain sandhi!
Also it is not necessary for the whole padam to be a tatpuruSha or
bahuvrIhi. Observe stanza two:
kalAbhirvinidrAM
Will it make sense to write this as kalAvinidrAM ? (let alone the chandas!)
rAmaH
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:49:10 +0530
From: Sheela Kalawar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Need help
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Dears all,
i have just recently joined this list. can u pl. guide me as to which font i have to
download to view the Sanskrit letters correctly. Also does anyone know the Sanskrit
word for "Balloon" - as in balloons used during parties, etc.
Thanks and warm regards,
Sheela Kalawar
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:40:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] SitarAvanasamvada jharii introduction contd 7
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shloka
tayostaM saMvAdaM tarushirasi lItvA nishamayan
hanUmAn vaidehyAH prativachanotyantamuditaH .
prayAte paulastye nijavachanabha~NgAt saruSi tAM
samAshvAsya trastAM drutataramupAgAdraghupatim ..
tyaeSt< s<vad< t�izris lITva inzmyn!
hnUman! vEde�a> �itvcnaeTyNtmuidt>,
�yate paElSTye injvcnɼat! s�i; ta<
sma�aSy �Sta< Ԃttrmupaga�"upitm!.
tayoH = between them
taM = that
samvAdam = verbal exchanges
tarushirasi = on the tree top
lItvA = lying
nishamayan = hearing
hanUmAN = hanuman
vaidehyAH = sita�s
prati-vachano-$tyanta-muditaH = prativachanena atyantAM
muditah = extremely happy on her replies
prayaate paulastye = on Ravana�s departure (sati saptami)
nija-vachana-ba~NgAt = having been defeated on his words
sarushi = with anger = angrily
tAm = her
samAshvAsya = after consoling
trastAm = afraid
drutataraM = very quickly
agAt = reached
raghupatiM = Srirama.
(Lying on the treetop, Hanuman was hearing their conversation
and specially Sita�s replies and he was very happy. Having been
defeated in his won words, Ravana departed angrily. Then
Hanuman went to see Sita and consoled her who was very
Much afraid. And he retruned to Srirama very quickly.
ShikhariNI
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 05:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Need help
To: Sheela Kalawar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sanskrit digest
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I am using Itrans 99 and I am satified. They have latest 2003 version also. You may
go to the following site -
www.omkarananda-ashram.org/ Sanskrit/Itranslt.html
Reg. Balloon what I can suggest as the nearest word is vikaasa-golam
Sheela Kalawar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dears all,
i have just recently joined this list. can u pl. guide me as to which font i have to
download to view the Sanskrit letters correctly. Also does anyone know the Sanskrit
word for "Balloon" - as in balloons used during parties, etc.
Thanks and warm regards,
Sheela Kalawar
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:10:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] akshhamAlAm
To: Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sanskrit digest
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I am inclined to agree that ajasram is an adverb
qualifying bhaje. So- I ceaselessly pray Shaaradaambaa, my ambaa - will be a better
translation.
Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am following this shAradA stotra discussion only
superficially.
I see the structure of each verse as such:
athetyopamAM tAM - tathetyopamAM tAm
athetyopamAM tAM - tathetyopamAM tAm
athetyopamAM tAM - tathetyopamAM tAm
bhaje shAradAmbAM ajasram madAmbAm |
i.e.,
dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme
dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme
dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme dvitIyAnta-name-rhyme
bhaje shAradAmbAM ajasram madAmbAm |
i.e.,
to thus-described woman, to thus-described woman,
to thus-described woman, to thus-described woman,
to thus-described woman, to thus-described woman,
to her, to shAradA ambA, to my mother, I ceaselessly
pray.
Note that I prefer that ajasram be associated with
bhaje (I ceaselessly pray), rather than with madambAm
(ceaselessly my mother). As is known, one's regular
birth mother is ceaselessly one's mother (even when
she sleeps)! Ceaselessness is hardly the adorable
feature of one's mother, her other excellent qualities
are.
Back to structure: in fact, each of the half-lines can
go with bhaje
svabhaktaikapAlAM (bhaje)
yashashshrIkapolAM (bhaje)... etc.
Thus, each of these terms can only either be either a
tatpurushha samAsa (a compound in which the final
sub-term is the referrent) or a bahuvrIhi samAsa (a
compound in which none of the sub-terms is the
referrent but someone/something else).
svabhaktaika-pAlA (final sub-term protectress,
tatpurushha)
yashashshrIkapolAM (fame-divine prosperity-cheeks, the
referrent is outside, "she with this stuff",
bahuvrIhi)
Given the structure of the verse, for balance,
symmetry and meaningfulness, I get a feeling that
"kare tu akshharamAlAm", a non-tatpurushha,
non-bahuvrIhi phrase, does not fit.
This message above is very presumptuous for someone
barely reading the shlokas and discussion. I have
found some of the interpretations too fanciful for
understanding, but have no better suggestion to make.
ata eva xamAshIlAH budhA iti matir-me |
Sethurama-gazh came to a similar rejection of kare-tu,
but at least he made a reasonable suggestion :-)
dhana.njayaH
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:19:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] sarada bhujangam translation verse 5
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5
sushAntAM sudehAM dR^igante kachAntAM
lasatsallatA~NgIM anantAM achintyAM.
smarettApasaiH sa~NaghapUrvasthitAM tAM
bhaje shAradAMbAM ajasraM madambAm..
suzaNta< sudeha< �gNte kcaNta<
lsTs�ta�I� AnNta< AicNTya<,
Smre�apsE> s'"pUvRiSwta< ta<
�je zarda<ba< Aj�< mdMbam!.
Ever peaceful, ever beautiful with eyes reaching the hairline,
Having beauteous limbs, ever-present, and unimaginable
Remembered by an assembly of ascetics standing in front,
I ceaselessly pray shaaradaambaa, my ambaa.
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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