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Today's Topics:
1. Declension (Jay Vaidya)
2. Re: Declension (Ambujam Raman)
3. more info on declensions question (V Srini)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:20:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Declension
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Hi Srinivas,
There is, in fact, a set of rules (an algorithm) that
governs all declensions, but this set of rules is very
cryptic and dense. You may find the
"programming-language" of the rules rather frustrating
to begin with, and the effort required in
understanding the "programming syntax" conventions are
just as hard as memorizing the tables.
However, some patterns are almost obvious as you try
to memorize, and reduce the work required. For
example, in the dual number, the forms for
first-second-(eighth) are the same, third-fourth-fifth
are the same, sixth-seventh are the same. e.g., for
'deva'
devau, devau; devAbhAm, devAbhyAm, devAbhyAm; devayoH,
devayoH
You will notice that such patterns imply that you do
not have to learn 7x3 = 21 (or 8x3 = 24) forms, but
fewer.
Could you give an example of what you mean by
"exception"? It may be useful to leave exceptional
forms for later study.
Dhananjay
> From: V Srini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Do the
> declensions (Vibhakti s) have some set of rules that
> completely govern all the declensions of all noun
> roots (eg:agni, atman, nau, etc). ...
> grammar book some rules of declension, but the
> problem is: for each type of ending there are so
> many exceptions ...
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:51:45 -0500
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Declension
To: "Jay Vaidya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
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Jay:
Is there any 'mnemonic' shloka that will help remember the declensions for
the standard terminations?
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From: "Jay Vaidya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] Declension
> Hi Srinivas,
>
> There is, in fact, a set of rules (an algorithm) that
> governs all declensions, but this set of rules is very
> cryptic and dense. You may find the
> "programming-language" of the rules rather frustrating
> to begin with, and the effort required in
> understanding the "programming syntax" conventions are
> just as hard as memorizing the tables.
>
> However, some patterns are almost obvious as you try
> to memorize, and reduce the work required. For
> example, in the dual number, the forms for
> first-second-(eighth) are the same, third-fourth-fifth
> are the same, sixth-seventh are the same. e.g., for
> 'deva'
> devau, devau; devAbhAm, devAbhyAm, devAbhyAm; devayoH,
> devayoH
>
> You will notice that such patterns imply that you do
> not have to learn 7x3 = 21 (or 8x3 = 24) forms, but
> fewer.
>
> Could you give an example of what you mean by
> "exception"? It may be useful to leave exceptional
> forms for later study.
>
> Dhananjay
>
>
> > From: V Srini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Do the
> > declensions (Vibhakti s) have some set of rules that
> > completely govern all the declensions of all noun
> > roots (eg:agni, atman, nau, etc). ...
> > grammar book some rules of declension, but the
> > problem is: for each type of ending there are so
> > many exceptions ...
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:37:50 -0800 (PST)
From: V Srini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] more info on declensions question
To: [email protected]
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Hello Vaidya,
Thanks for the response.
I am attaching a bitmap of the page in HH WIlson's
book explaining exceptions to the rules of declension.
This example is for declensions of masculine nouns in
"i", like agni.
If we have to remember so many "exceptions" to the
rules, might as well learn declensions by-heart. (I
could take "agni" for example and learn all 21
declensions; actually fewer than 21)
You mentioned a set of rules and a language that
describes them. What are they and where are they?
Thanks.
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