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1. Re: Bhaktiranjini (Ambujam Raman)
2. RE: Rig veda - Sri Aurobindo (Eugene Jayaraj)
3. Re verb forms (G?rard Huet)
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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:19:01 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Bhaktiranjini
To: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sanskrit digest"
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MW gives:
ra~njana (m) ra~njanii(f) ...pleasing,charming, rejoicing, delighting
Git(agovinda)(cf. jana ra~njanii); conciliating, befriending....
rAmaH
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From: P.K.Ramakrishnan
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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:51 AM
Subject: [Sanskrit] Bhaktiranjini
Further to my posting on the above I wanted to say that in Apte's dictionary
the word given is ranjanii and not ranjinii.
PKR
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:29:39 +0800
From: "Eugene Jayaraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Sanskrit] Rig veda - Sri Aurobindo
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What a wonderful website ! Thanks
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From: Desiraju Hanumanta Rao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:20 PM
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Rig veda - Sri Aurobindo
It appears that an online transl work of Rig Veda by an Indian is so far
unnoticed, [am I right]
Here is the transl of Sri Aurobindo >>
<http://www.mountainman.com.au/rghmf_00.html>
http://www.mountainman.com.au/rghmf_00.html << All the while it is there
under the heading 'Hymns to the Mystic Fire' Sri Aurobindo has attempted all
10 mandala-s, but has not translated some mantra-s in each.
Please compare the usage of words by Sri Aurobindo; for e.g., vicar in the
first rik for purohitam...
I adore the Flame, the vicar, the divine Ritwik of the Sacrifice, the
summoner who most founds the ecstasy.- Sri Aurobindo
I Laud Agni, the chosen Priest, God, minister of sacrifice,
The hotar, lavishest of wealth. - Griffith
I call upon Agni, the one placed in front, the divine priest of the
sacrifice, the invoker, the best bestower of gifts. - Michael Myers of
Washington State University <http://www.wsu.edu/>
There is thirukkural at this mountainman via Himalayan Academy >>
http://www.mountainman.com.au/kural/ <<
Hope all would see them
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:04:04 +0200
From: G?rard Huet<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re [Sanskrit] verb forms
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V Srini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in Sanskrit Digest, Vol 26, Issue
26 :
<<What I am looking for is:
given "nii", I should have niitvaa, netum, niita, . .
. . all 10 conjugational forms for all genders and
sg/dbl/plural, derivative forms such as "aanayati",
etc. etc. Similarly "tyaj" should include, among other
forms, "tyaktvaa" as well as "parityajya".>>
There is no clear notion of verbal forms which could be fully listed in
Sanskrit.
You have root forms, and you have sequences of preverbs. For a given
root, you have
certain sequences of preverbs which are attested, but nothing prevents
you from creating
unattested sequences of preverbs in front of a root, so this is no
obvious limitation
to a finite set of verbal forms.
Furthermore, preverbs are linked by external sandhi to the preceding
word, and NOT by
internal sandhi to the following preverb or root form. Thus it would be
misleading to
enter in your "verb forms encyclopedia" a form such as "ehi" for aa-ihi
= come.
Indeed, you do not obtain "come here" as iha+ehi=*ihaihi, but as
iha+aa+ihi=ihehi,
where + is external sandhi, effected from left to right.
What adds to the complexity is that there are preverbs which attach to
root forms using
irregular sandhi, in assimilation to internal sandhi. Thus prati with
sthaa gives
prati.s.thaa, pari with sva~nj gives pari.sva~nj, etc. All such
exceptions are listed
explicitly in Panini, there is no general rule which explains how to
derive such verbal forms.
The best you can do, I believe, is to list root forms, a not-so-easy
task indeed.
I have mechanically generated such a list of finite root forms in the
Web pdf document
http://sanskrit.inria.fr/DATA/roots.pdf
Companion volumes list absolutives, infinitives and participles.
Of course any such list will contain unattested forms (not so
problematic), will miss some
attested forms (thus is incomplete), and will contain mistakes.
Correcting these mistakes
will progressively yield a reference document for Sanskrit verbal
morphology. Further
specialised versions will be indexed by corpus collections, in order to
have a finer diachronic
view of vedic forms, epic forms, puranic forms, etc.
Gerard Huet
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