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Today's Topics:
1. (Ramanathan Jambunathan)
2. Kavi Tolan (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:32:44 -0500
From: Ramanathan Jambunathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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yathA matpriya zri kale alikhit (: yathA zri kalena(( Is this the
proper tava nAmasya karaNa kAraka ?) uktam - as I understand karmaNi
prayoga is preferred to kartR)
Dear Mr Ramnathan Jambunathan,
namo namaH.
Some clarifications regarding grammatical explanations in your first
semtence "asti gautamasya munes tapovane mahAtapA nAma muniH"
gautamasya - it is genetive (SaSThI vibhakti) singular. but i think
SaSThi vibhakti is not a kAraka. kAraka is defined by pANini as
kriyAnvayI kArakam (One that has a relation with kriyA) Genetive case
does not have a relation with kriyA denoted by the verb asti.
Genetive case , in this sentence has a relation only with the words
"gautamasya munes".
munes - i think, the root of this word is muni (ajanta pullinga -
masculine noun ending in a vowel - ikArAnta pullinga).
tapovane - i too think that it is caturthI tatpuruSa. but it will be
dissolved as tapase vanam and not as tapAya vanam, bcoz the root of
the word tapo is tapas - neuter noun ending in s (halanta
napunsakalinga). dative case goes thus - "tapase - tapobhyAm -
tapobhyaH".
mahAtapA - i guess it is not karmadhAraya. it is bahuvrIhi that is
dissolved thus - "mahat tapah yasya saH mahAtapAH" - the visarga is
dropped bcoz the word is followed by muniH that starts with a soft
consonant "m".
the word mahAtapAH is originally an adjective (hence bahuvrIhi) used
here as a noun.
pls let me now if i'm going wrong anywhere. i'm also a student of
sanskrit. this mailing list is a great place to be.
regards
yogesh kale
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atha vicAraNA:
gautamasya: It was my oversight to have called SaSthi vibahti as
kAraka case. It just expresses relation between two nouns. I didn't
intend that.
munes: the prathama vibakhti form is muniH and and the SaSThi is
muneH (like hariH) and hence munes.
tapovane- You are right about tapase it being napumsakalinga as I
myself have noted in the following word.
mahAtapA; the vanishing of visarga as explained before -
Incidentally word like ramaH etc have visarga only when they become
padas and before that they are like ramas etc. It is karmadhAraya
compound- ((like tungavRkSaH (tungo vRkSah) mahat being an
adjective)), mahArajah (Note maHan rajA becomes this) tyalktabhAryA
( tyktA bhAryA) - any k.dh or t.p can compound can be used as b. h.
when the nouns that form the compound can be used as adjectives- with
the gender of the compond final menmber is made to fit the noun being
modified. Example the word b.v itself can be used as k. dh. and b.v.
In deciding the actual break up as b.v. we need two levels of
information: vigraha of k.dh. or t.p. and its relation as a whole
(adjective)to whatvevr it modifies.
At this point I would like to approach various samAsas ( not all) for
a few days if the readers are not offended and if the moderator
permits. It will help me understand them better and I hope many of
the knowledgeable people like vaidya, PKR, sai and others would help
us out by their criticisms and explanations or one of them may
volunteer to educate us- or there may be references in the archives.
What brings this on is the recent discussion and past excellent
explanation by zri jay vaidya on the word indrazatrurvardhasva - I
was reminded of zri kAnci paramAcarya's anecdote in Vol VII p.232 ;
I looked it up recently- about his answer to one of his devotees
regarding the word "jagadguru" -suggesting that appellation applies
to him as b.h. rather than as t.p. compound. the k.dh. and t.p
meanings are very different, just as in indrazatrurvardhasva.
bhavtAnugRhIto'smi
jambunAthaH
a A i I u U R RR lR lRR e ai o au M H
k kh g gh G c ch j jh J
T Th D Dh N t th d dh n
p ph b bh m y r l v z S s h
avagraha '
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Kavi Tolan
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In Kerala there was a poet called Tolan. He was a Nampoothiri. He composed
mainly in Sanskrit and he was witty too.
Once when he went to the nearby Shiva Temple he prayed to Shiva with the
following shloka.
maaraare thava daasoham
variyasya jaTaantare /
empraahuravyayam nityam
tantrinetram namaamyaham //
In the temple there are many functionaries to attend to various aspects.
maaraar - the drummer
vaariya - the person who brings flowers and garlands
empraan - the priest
tantri - who prescribes the temple rituals.
One hearing the shoka all the above functionaries rushed to Tolan questioning
him about what mistakes they have done.
Tolan told them that he did not refer to any of them and the meaning was -
maaraare = hey! foe of maara or cupid. (i.e.shiva)
tava daasoham = I am your servant.
vaari yasya jaTaantare = one who has water in his jaTa (ie.ganges in his jaTa).
empraahuravyayam = who is said to be avyaya.
tam trinetram = that three eyed.
namaamyaham - I salute.
The temple servants withdrew silently.
PKR
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