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Today's Topics:
1. (jiva das)
2. (Ramanathan Jambunathan)
3. sticky zloka (jiva das)
4. mahAtapAh (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
5. An Experiment: Online Dictionary (Klaus Glashoff)
6. Mr Subhash Prajapati - How to find conjugation (yogesh kale)
7. Re: RE: sanskrit Digest, Vol 30, Issue 18 loka hita mama
karaNIyam (tobhalgt)
8. Re: How to find the conjugation ? (tobhalgt)
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 15:31:45 -0500
From: Ramanathan Jambunathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi everyone ,
zri kale is EXACTLY RIGHT! I must have been lost (in between my
classes) in my defence of mahAtapA as k.d . It is b.v compound form
of a k.d compound ( that is a descriptive compound).
As I had noted k.d and t.p samAsas can function as b.v and modify
another noun and as such the last noun in the vigraha takes the case
and gender of the noun being so modified.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Jambunathan
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:35:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: jiva das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] sticky zloka
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I would break this like
candra-dvayA-uddayA-uddyota-dhavala-udara-sundaram [YV.3.41.1]
Can anybody help me?
jd
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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:05:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] mahAtapAh
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I am posting this from an earlier posting for whatever it is worth.
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:30:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Sai Susarla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: udyogaparvam - sarga 9 - 3
shlokaH 3
tvaShTA prajApatirhyAsIddevashreShTho mahAtapAH .
saputra.n vai trishirasamindradrohAtkilAsR^ijat .. 3..\
padavibhaagaH
tvaShTA prajApatiH hi AsIt devashreShThaH mahAtapAH .
saH putra.n vai trishirasam indradrohAt kila asR^ijat .
anvayaH
tvaShTA prajApatiH hi devashreShThaH mahAtapAH AsIt.
kila indradrohAt trishirasam saH putra.n vai asR^ijat.
pratipadaarthaH
tvaShTA=Visvakarma, (name);
prajApatiH=Brahma, Viswakarma;
hi=indeed;
devashreShThaH=best of devas;
mahAtapAH=one who has done great penance;
AsIt=was there;
kila=It is heard;
indradrohAt=on account of malice toward Indra;
trishirasam=three headed;
saH=he;
putra.n=son;
vai=certainly;
asR^ijat=created;
anuvaadaH
Viswakarma was the best of devas and had done great penance. It is heard
(through legend) that on account of malice toward Indra, he created
(produced) a three headed son.
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Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:44:48 +0200
From: Klaus Glashoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] An Experiment: Online Dictionary
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THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT!
I have started an online dictionary for spoken Sanskrit which is open to
cooperative work for everyone.
The wordlist I began with is not optimal and has to be changed
considerably. It is planned to introduce also small Sanskrit sentences
into the dictionary. "Ancient" terms have to be deleted and a standard
for the grammatical structure of the entries has to be imposed.
Please feel free to experiment with the online dictionary. Let me know
critical remarks and hints for improvements!
http://spokensanskrit.de
I will be in South India from November on, and I will be looking for
partners for improving the dictionary.
Klaus
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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:15:31 +0100 (BST)
From: yogesh kale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Mr Subhash Prajapati - How to find conjugation
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PrajApatimahodaya, namo namaH
each gaNa (conjugation) has its own identity called "vikaraNa". These are 1-a,
2- none, 3 - none, 4- ya, 5- nu, 6- a, 7- n, 8 - u (?), 9- nA, 10 - aya
for example, if u want to form a verb from nama (1 parasmai paDa) - it goes
like this - DhAtu + vikaraNa + prtyaya
nam + a + mi = namAmi
nam + a + ti = namati etc.
moreover, once u go on reading the dhAtus, u will stast memorising them
automatically.
as reagrds dhatus tht are present in more than one conjugations - in each
conjugation, the dhatu has different meaning. eg - viD : viD (2 parasmai) means
to know and goes like vetti etc. viD (4 Atmane) means "to be" and goes like
viDyate (viD + ya + te) - here ya is the vikaraNa of the 4th conjugation. viD
(6 ubhaya) means to obtain and goes like vinDati vinDataH vinDanti.
meanings of the same dhatu from different conjugations have to be memorised and
u will certainly be able to do it after practice.
In the 2nd and thge 3rd conjugation, there is no vikaraNa. but one feature of
the 3rd con. distinguishes it from the 2nd one - the first letter of the dhatu
or a similar letter thereto is prefixed while forming the verbs - eg DA (3
parasmai) goes like DaDAti DattaH DaDati. DhA (3parasmai) goes like DaDhAti.
bhr (3 parasmai) goes like bibharti etc.
the vikaraNa helpls in identifying the conjugation. a few examples -
nam ( 1 parasmai) - nam + a +ti = namati
viD (2 parasmai ) - viD + ti = vetti
DA (3 Ubhay) DA + ti = DaDAti
viD (4 Atmane) - viD + ya + te = viDyate
Ap (5 parasmai) Ap + nu + ti = Apnoti
viD (vinD 6 ubhay) = vinD + a +ti / te = vinDati / te
bhuj ( 7 ubahay) = here the vikaraNa " n" is added before the last letter of
the dhatu , i e bhu + n + j + te = bhunkte
kr (8 ubhay) - i dont know much about this conjugation)
DnyA (9 ubhay) DnyA + nA + ti = jAnAti
pUj ( 10 ubhay) = pUj + aya + ti/te = pUjayati/te.
I hope u will get some idea from this and i also hope that u r not landed in a
confusion bcoz of this.
thanx and regards
yogesh kale
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:09:29 +0530
From: "tobhalgt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] RE: sanskrit Digest, Vol 30, Issue 18 loka
hita mama karaNIyam
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Good Day,
This is a line from one of the prayers sung at the SANSKRITBHARATI
Sambhshana classes.
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Subject: [Sanskrit] RE: sanskrit Digest, Vol 30, Issue 18 loka hita mama
karaNIyam
> Namaste,
>
> It is a poem by the Sanskritist (Late) S.B.Varnekar. He also
> wrote the epic poem Shivarajyodayam. He was honored by the Sahitya
> (Literature) Academy of India by the Award for Sanskrit literature in
1974.
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> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:16:17 +0400
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> >Subject: [Sanskrit] loka hita mama karaNIyam
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> >Please,
> >who knows an origin/source of the text below:
> >
> >loka hitam mama karaNIyam ||
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:04:56 +0530
From: "tobhalgt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] How to find the conjugation ?
To: "Subhash Prajapati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Good day Subhash,
What you are looking for is given in Dictionaries by Apte, Deosthali,
Shastri-Pande etc.
In some cases the Dhatu takes different meanings in different Ganas.
Sometimes the Pada changes with a prefix.
Please look up Bhandarkar's Grammar Parts 1 & 2.
Please try " Sanskrit site of G.Huet." on google.
Bhalchandra G. Thattey
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Subject: [Sanskrit] How to find the conjugation ?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have just started learning sanskrit grammar
> and one big problem I am facing is
>
> 1) On coming across a new verb (dhatu) in any
> sanskrit sentence, how does one find out
> what conjugation (gana) does the dhatu belong to ?
>
> 2) Some dhatus are present in more than one
> conjugation. How does one know which is the proper
> conjugation to use ?
>
> 3) If someone has some material having clarification
> then could someone please send the soft copy of
> the material to me ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> - Subhash
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