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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:44:13 -0700
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 18 - 16
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vikramasya anuvAdAt aham kiJNchit bhinnam anuvakshye
(I'd translate it a bit differently than Vikrama mahodaya)
> anuvAdaH
> Shalya to Yudhisthira: O lord, when the opposing army is arrayed in order,
> then
> by the king wishing victory, this narration of "Indra's victory" equal to the
> vedas
Vikrama's translation implies that a king should listen to the story at
the time when the army is arrayed for battle. I don't think that is the
sense of the original sloka:
> vyUDheShu anIkeShu jayam ichchhatA rAGYA idaM shrotavyaM
"This story of indra's victory should be heard
by any king that wishes victory in battle formations"
- Sai.
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> Translation by Vikram Santurkar under supervision of Dr. Sarasvati Mohan
>
> shlokaH 16
> upAkhyAnamida.n shakravijayaM vedasaMmitam .
> rAGYA vyUDheShvanIkeShu shrotavya.n jayamichchhatA .. 16..\
>
> anvayaH
> vyUDheShu anIkeShu jayam ichchhatA rAGYA ida.n
> upAkhyAnam shakravijayam vedasaMmitam shrotavya.n .
>
> anuvAdaH
> Shalya to Yudhisthira: O lord, when the opposing army is arrayed in order,
> then
> by the king wishing victory, this narration of "Indra's victory" equal to the
> vedas
> should be listened .
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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:24:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Deepa Ramamurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re: Sanskrit to English
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Shri Gurubhyo Namaha
I found the article on the English words, which appear to have evolved from
sanskrit, very interesting. What about the sanskrit root verb 'luk'-'to see'
and the english word 'look'?
Deepa
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From: "Suresh C. Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND "PADA"
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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:30:02 +0530
To: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dear Sirs,
But, I am afraid, in Sanskrit literature, this rule has not been strictly
followed.
Regs,
Suresh C Sharma
On 11/5/05, P.K.Ramakrishnan
wrote:
>
> Verbs which relate to oneself come under the category atmanepada.
> Verbs which relate to others come under the category parasmaipada.
> Verbs which relate to both come under the category ubhayapada.
>
> *RAKESH MARAJ * wrote:
>
> JAI SHREE RAM,
> I NEED A LITTLE ASSISTANCE IN UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
> ATMANEPADA & PARASMANEPADA. ALSO HOW DO I USED THEM. DO THEY HAVE ANY MORE
> PADA'S.
> RAKESH
> JAI SHREE RAM
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From: "tobhalgt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Help on Nasadiya Suktam
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:19:52 +0530
To: "Sandeep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sir,
There is good translation of " RIGVEDA" published by the Government of
Maharashtra.
It should be available from the Government's Publishing Office.
I had purchased one from the " Ideal Book Shop " at Dadar T.T.
Sincerely,
Bhalchandra G.Thattey
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From: Sandeep
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] Help on Nasadiya Suktam
Namaste,
Can anybody kindly point me to an authentic translation/exposition of
the Rg Vedic Naasadiya suktam? I read a translation by AL Bashyam but
found it unsatisfactory. What I'm looking for is a
commentary/exposition that is derived from the native tradition.
If you can suggest books to buy it, that is also okay with me.
Many thanks in advance.
Om Tat Sat
Sandeep B
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Subject: [Sanskrit] naasadiiya suuktam
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:10:53 -0800 (PST)
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
There are lots of web pages on this and search is to be done for 'creation =
hymn Rig veda' =
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see at >> http://www.theindiafoundation.org/e-magazine/gautamindnov/backgro=
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Subject: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 18 - 15
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 07:30:00 -0800
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Translation by Vikram Santurkar under supervision of Dr. Sarasvati Mohan
shlokaH 15
ataH sAgaraparyantAM bhokShyase medinImimAm .
bhrAtR^ibhiH sahito vIra draupadyA cha sahAnayA .. 15..\
padavibhAgaH
ataH sAgaraparyantAM bhokShyase medinIm imAm
bhrAtR^ibhiH sahitaH vIra draupadyA cha saha anayA .
anvayaH
vIra ataH bhrAtR^ibhiH sahitaH anayA draupadyA cha
saha sAgaraparyantAM imAm medinIm bhokShyase .
pratipadArthaH
vIra=O hero;
ataH=therefore;
bhrAtR^ibhiH=with your brothers;
sahitaH=together;
anayA=with her;
draupadyA=with Draupadi;
cha=and;
saha=together with;
sAgaraparyantAM=upto the edge of the ocean;
imAm=this;
medinIm=the earth;
bhokShyase=you will enjoy;
anuvAdaH
Shalya to Yudhisthira: O great one, then along with your brothers and with
Draupadi
you will enjoy this earth to the edge of the ocean.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 18 - 16
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:30:00 -0800
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Translation by Vikram Santurkar under supervision of Dr. Sarasvati Mohan
shlokaH 16
upAkhyAnamida.n shakravijayaM vedasaMmitam .
rAGYA vyUDheShvanIkeShu shrotavya.n jayamichchhatA .. 16..\
padavibhAgaH
upAkhyAnam ida.n shakravijayaM vedasaMmitam
rAGYA vyUDheShu anIkeShu shrotavya.n jayam ichchhatA
anvayaH
vyUDheShu anIkeShu jayam ichchhatA rAGYA ida.n
upAkhyAnam shakravijayam vedasaMmitam shrotavya.n .
pratipadArthaH
vyUDheShu=arranged in order;
anIkeShu=battle group, army;
jayam=victory;
ichchhatA=by those wishing;
rAGYA=by the king;
ida.n=this;
upAkhyAnam=this narration;
shakra-vijayaM=victory of Indra;
veda-saMmitam=equal to vedas;
shrotavya.n=should be listened;
anuvAdaH
Shalya to Yudhisthira: O lord, when the opposing army is arrayed in order, then
by the king wishing victory, this narration of "Indra's victory" equal to the
vedas
should be listened .
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit to English - Section 1.
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:33:14 -0800 (PST)
To: sanskrit digest <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sanskrit to English =
=
Section 1
=
ah+ am > I
=
tu + am > tu (Old English)
=
yu + am > yu > you =
=
vay + am > v > we =
=
In all the above, the portion am has disappeared in English.
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thad > that
=
they > they
=
No change =
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kah > who
=
kam > whom
=
Here ka becomes wh
=
=
i + thra > > h + ere
=
tha + thra > th + ere =
=
ku + thra > wh + ere
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Here thra becomes ere and ku becomes wh
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To be continued
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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:41:40 +0530
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND "PADA"
To: "Suresh C. Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "P.K.Ramakrishnan"
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NamoNamah,
That is true.
The Padas were decided in the ancient- PrePanini- times on the basis of what
Mr., Ramakrishna has suggested.
Later on they were used as they are in any sense.
Regards,
Bhalchandra G. Thattey
----- Original Message -----
From: Suresh C. Sharma
To: P.K.Ramakrishnan
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; sanskrit digest
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND "PADA"
Dear Sirs,
But, I am afraid, in Sanskrit literature, this rule has not been strictly
followed.
Regs,
Suresh C Sharma
On 11/5/05, P.K.Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Verbs which relate to oneself come under the category atmanepada.
Verbs which relate to others come under the category parasmaipada.
Verbs which relate to both come under the category ubhayapada.
RAKESH MARAJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
JAI SHREE RAM,
I NEED A LITTLE ASSISTANCE IN UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
ATMANEPADA & PARASMANEPADA. ALSO HOW DO I USED THEM. DO THEY HAVE ANY MORE
PADA'S.
RAKESH
JAI SHREE RAM
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