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1. Re: naciketa (G?rard Huet)
2. Fw: naciketa (bgthattey)
3. Fw: Baby Steps (bgthattey)
4. Help reg a sanskrit bookt in Mumbai University
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 15:39:44 +0200
From: G?rard Huet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] naciketa
To: Lakshmi Gopal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: G?rard Huet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
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Le 1 juil. 06 ? 03:14, Lakshmi Gopal a ?crit :
>
> How can one suggest that Nachiketas did not understand why his
> father was giving away
> his family's property?
Because he asked his father 3 times what would become of him after
the family cows are gone:
???????????????
kasmai maa.m daasyasi "Father, whom will you give me to ?"
>
> According to Sankara's interpretation Nachiketas alone understood the
> purpose of the Visvajit sacrifice better than his father did. He
> saw that
> his father failed to perform the sacrifice with sincerity and
> therefore, in
> order to help him better understand the purpose of giving up all one's
> possessions, and in order to teach him a lesson Nachiketas offered
> himself
> to the God of death.
He did not go of his own will to Yama, it is his father who told him
at the third asking
"I give you to Death". He had to go to death by order of his father,
not to teach him
a lesson.
> ...
> Nachiketas decided to confront his father while he was transporting
> very old
> and sickly cows to give them away as a part of the sacrifice.
His father gave ALL his cows, not just the barren ones:
- piitodakaa.h those who had drunk water
- jagdhat.r.naa.h those who had eaten grass
- dugdhadohaa.h those who had been milked
- nirindriyaa.h those who were barren
My understanding of "naciketas" as "He who did not know" means not so
much that he
is ignorant, but that he is inquisitive, as he shows by questioning
Yama in slick
ways.
GH
Ka.thopani.sad, with the commentary of "Sa"nkaraacaarya, translated
by Swami Gambhiraananda, Advaita Ashrama, Calcutta.
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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:53:13 -0700
From: bgthattey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Fw: naciketa
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UtahSanskrit <[email protected]>, G?rard
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Sir,
Nachiketa is the Nominative Singular of the word NACHIKETAS.
It is conjugated like CHANDRAMAS.
Its meaning is given as :
Nam / Nakaram / Abhavam Chikitsati Asow.
That is the one who cures / repairs / corrects the Abhava in Brahamaroopa.
It means JEEVA.
This is the definition given by Dr. K. L. ( BHAUJI ) Daftary of Nagpur.
Nachiketa is the hero of KATHOPANISHAT.
He meets the MRITYU and returns with three boons from the MRITYU.
This Upanishad describes the Brahma, Jeeva and the two courses open to the
Jeeva : 1) SHREYAS and 2) PREYAS.
Considering this Dr. Daftary's definition looks appropriate.
Bhalchandra G. Thattey
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From: jiva das
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Subject: [Sanskrit] naciketa
I cannot find any good source on this question of <naciketa> nachiketa or
<naciketas> nachiketas, and hope my learned Sanskrit friend bgthattey will have
something to say.
I would conjecture that it has something to do with the noun <keta> "desire,
will, intent", with the addition of a desiderative <ci> prefix. But the
construction does not follow any rules that I know. Still, if <ciketa> meant
"desirous", it would not be unusual to prefix <na-> instead of the usual <a->,
and Nachiketa would become "Desireless"---a good quality for an Upanishadic
hero.
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Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 12:24:54 -0700
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Fw: Baby Steps
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Dear Mr. JivaDas,
Several Samasas can used as follows :
shisu / shavaka - pada / paada / charana - nyasah / vikshepah / kramah / paatah.
The word PADANYASA is used often while assessing the quality of dancer or a
batsman's footwork in cricket.
I will be looking in the literature for a more poetic word.
I have a feeling that it will be found in BHAGAWATAM in which BalKrishnaLeelas
are described.
I am sure Mr. Surin R. Usgaonkar and M. Gerard Huet can guide us in this
search.
Sincerely
Bhalchandra G. Thattey
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Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 2:59 PM
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From: jiva das
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Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] Baby Steps
MW does not like "baby" but prefers "infant". He suggests <padakrama>, which is
more commonly used to refer to the slow teaching of syllables of Vedic.
Padakrama would not make a bad name in any case.
Do other readers have a point of view [this website has been very quiet lately]?
jd
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Help reg a sanskrit bookt in Mumbai University
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Hi,
I am in need of a help.My great grand father Mr.Narayana Iyer has written
a book sandhya vandanam (Hindu daily ritual). Which is currently at
University of Mumbai Library.I came to know this information only after a
research graduate of Mumbai university called our home and asked for the
information.His name was "*Ramesh Srinivasan*".,since we couldn't proceed
further in this regard to get a copy.I am in need of your esteemed help in
How can I get the copy of the book (which is dept of Sanskrit library I
hope) in Mumbai university.I donno the book name, but from the information
given by Ramesh it is
> Author Name is *Narayana Iyer*
>Subject is about *Sandhya Vandanam*
>book is dedicated to *sankarammal *his* second daughter*
>He is from* Kallidaikurichi* in *Tirunelveli District of Tamilnadu*.
Please I request u all in this forum to give some lead or any vital
information to reach that book since It is a matter of our family
pride.There r few research scholars who may come across the Mumbai Library's
SAnskrit books or may have contacts who may be knowing about this.Kindlyhelp me.
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> MW does not like "baby" but prefers "infant". He suggests <padakrama>,
> which is more commonly used to refer to the slow teaching of syllables of
> Vedic.
>
> Padakrama would not make a bad name in any case.
>
> Do other readers have a point of view [this website has been very quiet
> lately]?
>
> jd
>
>
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> vicaarah paramam jnaanam shamo hi paramam sukham ||
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> I find the word gaveshaNa being used for research. Apte's dictionary
> gives
> the word gavesh to search. There is an Organisation in Kerala called
> Ayurveda Gaveshana Kendra.
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> jiva das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you search the online Monier-Williams Dictionary at the University
> of Cologne, you'll find lots of possibilities for "research".
>
> If you like big words, I suggest <nirabhyavekSaNa> nirabhyavekshana; but
> easier is <vicAra> vichaara, which is usually translated as "enquiry", as in
> <Atma-vicAra> aatma-vichaara "self-enquiry"; in the outward direction it is
> <vicaya> vichaya.
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> jd
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> On 16/05/06, Lakshmi Sriram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi
> > thanks for that. but the word widely used seems to be samshodhan - i
> wonder
> > why. institutions engaged in research call themselves samshodhan
> kendra,
> > sanstha etc.
> >
> > anveshana is closer in meaning to "research", but still does not really
> > capture it exactly.
> >
>
>
> Can you give any example of a research institution calling itself
> "saMshodhana kendra"?
>
> I find that the word saMshodhana is most commonly used to mean
> "amendment" or "correction". For example "constitutional amendment" is
> translated as "saMvaidhAnika saMshodhana"
>
> OTOH, anusandhAna is most commonly used to mean "research", as in
> bhAratIya antarixa anusandhAna sa.ngaThana (Indian Space Research
> Organisation) or vaij~nanika evaM audyogika anusandhAna pariShad
> (Council of Scientific and Industrial Research).
>
> The Central Bureau of Investigation calls itself "kendriya anveShan
> bureau". Don't ask me why "bureau" is left untranslated!!
>
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:49:07 +0000
> From: "Vasuvaj ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Word for baby-steps
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
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> "Chankramanam" can be used for 'baby steps'
>
> Vasuvaj
>
>
> From: "Mohan K.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Mohan K.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Word for baby-steps
> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Hi all,
>
> I want to know what is the Sanskrit equivalent of 'Baby-steps'. In Kannada
> it is 'ambegaalu', in Tamizh 'thavazhudal'
> and Telugu 'budibudi adugulu'.I want to name my blog that ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Mohan
>
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