Just putting my two cents in...

I think the concept of Saturday House lacks focus. It is a weekly
meeting where people get together and do stuff. That's pretty vague,
and hard to explain to people. Sure, I'm totally butchering the vision
by saying that, but I think that's how outsiders percieve it.

I can tell you what I get out of Saturday House, and what I want it to
be, but that is different from the vision. I see it as a place for
software developers to get together, share tips and tricks, ask
questions, work on projects, share ideas, etc. If I were running the
show, I would focus it on software developers hacking on open source
projects.

-Kyle


On Monday, April 13, 2009, Robert Eickmann <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Action is vital and crucial, however it must be directed. You can hit
> a diamond with a sledgehammer and nothing will happen, but if you hit
> it with a little hammer in just the right spot....
>
> Saturday House as a group has had two ways of attaining action, and
> both of them have very significant failure modes. The two methods are
> of course management by committee , and mini emperor.
>
> Our cigar chomping meetings have been wonderful examples of management
> by committee.  We all needed to agree on something needing to happen,
> however no one steps up and takes the initiative and ownership to get
> that ball rolling. We decide that we need XYZ, however no one really
> owns XYZ so no one feels obligated to work on XYZ and XYZ doesn't
> happen for months. Everyone agrees but no one owns, so no one acts.
>
> The other method is mini emperor where one person decides that
> something is a really good idea (mumble host a conference mumble) and
> goes of and does it, with little feedback from the group. The one
> person goes off into the woods sometimes dragging others along but the
> rest of the group which doesn't really own the action so the group as
> a whole ignores it, or worse yet feels alienated by the idea and
> slowly drops out.
>
> Both of these methods have lead to the current impasse that we face.
> No one felt that they owned the G labs space, so they didn't really
> make it their home, others haven't felt included as others have gone
> off chasing their ideas, others have gotten the wrong idea(s) about
> the group, we have had leaders off facing their version of MT
> Everest...
>
> Saturday House if it will go on, needs to have someone step up and say
> in their best 300 voice, "THIS IS SATURDAY HOUSE AND THIS IS WHAT IT
> IS AND THESE ARE THE ACTIONS I MAKE HAPPEN FOR IT!"
>
> -Rob
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> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Lion Kimbro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  Action is crucial, primary, hard, and without it, nothing can
>>  happen.  Action must be conquered daily; And more than action, --
>>  working with others.  This is clear, and I will never debate
>>  against it.
>>
>>  This said:
>>  We can make things endlessly, and take things apart endlessly.
>>  What would be gained?  What is the point?  To what end?
>>
>>  I type this letter "x" to make a symbol in a sentence, and the
>>  sentence is here to serve the point, and the point is to serve a
>>  communication, and the communication is here to challenge vision
>>  proposals, and the challenge is here to keep our future lives on
>>  track for high ends, and keeping our lives on track for high ends
>>  is to serve the heart at the center of all of our judgments: to
>>  serve the highest values and ideals we can conceive to act by, in
>>  the hope that higher values still will be able to make some use of
>>  our greatest imaginings, hopes, and aspirations.
>>
>>  Without a chain of embedded links, leading straight into the heart
>>  of life, I do not understand how we are doing anything of value at
>>  all.
>>
>>  If we perform our acts, we may be able to impress people, and we
>>  may be entertained for a time, but ultimately, our minds must see
>>  through the emptiness of our fabricated fancy.  There is a force
>>  at the center of our hearts that can see straight through anything
>>  we invent.
>>
>>  Who can I act with, from this sober and sometimes stern center?
>>
>>  Right now, surface crises include the biosphere and the economy.
>>  These are ripe fields full of meaning.  Less urgently but perhaps
>>  more deeply, crises include human happiness and our sense for the
>>  value of life.
>>
>>  Art can be a weapon to defeat sadness, and the background
>>  depression that clouds our culture.  We need to strive for
>>  cheerfulness, felicity, creativity, exploration, imagination, and
>>  artistic projects -- no doubt.
>>
>>  But I honestly do not understand the merit of our actions if they
>>  are not rooted, performed in the spirit of Love, and in service to
>>  high ideals and values.
>>
>>
>>  I appreciate the fresh spirit: The challenge, the provocation, the
>>  rush to act -- possibilities latent, and hinted at, becoming real.
>>  The power of dream.  A 17 year old young boy, $100 in the pocket,
>>  and a car.  Such things require no justification- There is purpose
>>  and meaning enough in opening the door of possibility.  The spirit
>>  makes itself visible.
>>
>>  But we are confused if we believe that we can leave things here,
>>  unexamined further, endlessly repeated; We will wither in one
>>  meaningless project after another.
>>
>>
>>  When I first envisioned Saturday House, I envisioned a place of
>>  creativity, shared projects, perpetual new ideas.  I envisioned
>>  that we had bought a house, and transformed it; Made it our
>>  "school" (our post-grad Sudbury school, or the "Xavier Institute
>>  of Higher Learning,") that we went to on the weekends.  I
>>  envisioned a place of radical change and transformation, of new
>>  efforts, of discovery, of cross education, of humor, of love, of
>>  freedom, of people connected at the heart, and impossible ideas
>>  made possible.  High spirits, all around!  Open Source
>>  development, people scheduling conversations, people learning and
>>  teaching science, people applying creativity to all things, in
>>  effort, cooperation, and generosity.
>>
>>  I imagined a structure emerging, and also a way -- A way for
>>  people who wanted to live this way, to learn, so that they too
>>  could bring to reality this kind of life, if it was something that
>>  they could see their own face reflected in.  We would need to
>>  learn this way ourselves, of course, but I held (and I hold) a
>>  faith that it is something that we can find out; That there is
>>  nothing

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http://www.kylemulka.com

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