> In general, I don't think this is an issue that is unique to _secure_
> programming (coding, design, etc.).  I think over the past 40 years
> or so, as a discipline, we've failed rather miserably at teaching
> programming, period.

Right.  But on the other hand, that's not surprising - when did you
last see even a course, never mind a program, in academia that was
_supposed_ to teach programming (as opposed to computer science or
software engineering or any of the various other things usually taught
instead of it)?

I have a fuzzy memory that says that such courses exist now.  But only
a few of them and only very recently.

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