Dana Epp: > Or perhaps less arrogance in believing "it won't sink".
Absolutely. Here's my $0.02: secure software fails safely Any non-trivial piece of software has defects. My challenge is not to eliminate the last defect, but to make the system safe to use (for some appropriate definition of safe) in the presence of defects. Wietse _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php