Can't you use the lure (on a string?) as a reward FOR obedience work? After all, a lot of the really big SchH trainers working with high drive GSDs use prey drive for nearly all their training. I know *I've* used that (very long tug toy, encouraging dog to chase and pounce it) to get revv'd up for a flyball run- seems like greyhounds would be MADE for that sort of reinforcer.
This of course, they are willing to work with any reinforcer at all... I've come to the conclusion that some dogs are just lazy. :D (Absolutely hilarious story told by a friend on another board about the obedience portion of the IW nationals.....) Cait ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SCA_Coursing] Havin your courser and a CDX too.... Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:40:54 -0500 ><html><body> > > > ><tt> >At 8:14 PM +0000 2/23/05, [email protected] wrote:<BR> >>specialist, but I do know Ludwig's breeder stopped just short of ><BR> >>telling us not<BR> >>to do obedience with him. You could tell she struggled with >out-and-out<BR> >>saying "don't do it", but suggested they keep the >obedience work to a<BR> >>minimum with their dogs that course and race.<BR> ><BR> >The trick is to get the young pups soooo focused on the lure that ><BR> >they *want* it above all else. But don't practice till they drop. ><BR> >Stop before they get bored!<BR> ><BR> >At the same time do *up* training for OB--teach 'touch', train to ><BR> >sit. Just don't be super insistent on close heeling. Come is needed ><BR> >in BOTH venues :-) and once they know how to learn (see touch above) ><BR> >you can build on that later.<BR> ><BR> >Dogs have windows of learning. A young pup is a sponge...you can use ><BR> >that to your advantage.<BR> >Oh and NEVER EVER yell at at a pup you want to run if they steal <BR> >socks/anything white and fluffy!!! Gently trade for a toy. More good ><BR> >dogs have been inhibited by this....<BR> ><BR> >Oh and train your youngsters ALONE! Otherwise they may learn to chase ><BR> >the other dog and not the lure...<BR> ><BR> >For your older dog--they have Mommy Syndrome. As suggested go back to ><BR> >basics and fishpole them with a fluffy sock or bit o fake fur. If you ><BR> >get to practices use the NGA sqwaker WITH the white bag. Tie a bit o ><BR> >Rabbit skin (fresh is best) to the bag. Or bait the bag with some ><BR> >hamburger...all can help jump start the instinct. We run the lure ><BR> >past a reluctant hound and then slip them as it passes--this can help ><BR> >trigger the chase reflex.<BR> ><BR> >My friends and I have (several) dogs that both run like maniacs AND ><BR> >have a CDX or are working on one. First we worked on the chase with ><BR> >some play training for come and leash breaking then on to formal OB ><BR> >once they were well started in the field.<BR> ><BR> >And remember Saluki are not necessarally the best breed to chase a ><BR> >(ICK!) empty plastic bag--they are much better OFC dogs...Some play ><BR> >the game some don't. 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