Hi, Thanks for your reply. 1) Unfortunately, the first solution does not work. The merge game has a non-standard start position. 2) As you mentionned, this option may work but it is too much time-consuming!
Interestingly, Scid recognizes some transpositions in games. For instance, in the Sicilian Keres attack Scid correctly merges games despite different move orders to reach the move 6.g4. Probably move 10 is too far from the beginning. Cheers Jos > Dear scidlisters, > I have an issue which has recently come up dealing with the merge function. > > I am using Scid 4.3. > > Is it possible to merge a game at a choosen move? > Scid does not always recognize that two games have reached the same position > with different move orders. Thus, the merge is not properly made. In list view, Scid does not recognize transpositions in games. In tree view it may do. If you create a small database with only these two games, the tree works exactly as you expect. I am not sure, but you may be able to save the tree as a single new game. This game should show two variations: One after 2.Nf3 and one after 10... Nbd7 I have two manual workaround suggestions (I hope you do not need to do this for many games!): 1. (may work) * Open game 2 and go to the position after 10.... Nbd7 * Strip moves from the beginning (make it start at move 11.Nb3 from a FEN start position) * save this game as a (temporary) new game. * Merge this stripped copy of game 2, into game 1. This may work, but I did not test this myself. * Delete the temporary copy. 2. (certainly works, but takes some time) * Open game 1 and go to the position after 10....Nbd7 * Enter the moves as they were played in game 2, starting with 11.Nb3 * save the game as a new game using the data from game 2. * Reopen game 1 and merge the patched copy of game 2 * Delete the temporary copy. Depending on how you want the merge result stored, exact operations can be simplified a bit (but I guess you got that point). Cheers, Joost. > For instance, the following two games have reached the same position at move > 10 with a complete different move order. > > Ivanchuk, Vassily (2719) -- Rublevsky, Sergei (2670) > EU-Cup 16th (6.1) Neum > 2000.09.29 0-1 B84 > > 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6 5.Be2 Nf6 6.Nc3 Qc7 7.O-O d6 8.a4 Be7 > 9.a5 O-O 10.Be3 Nbd7 11.g4 h6 12.f4 d5!? 13.exd5 Nxd5 14.Nxd5 exd5 15.Nf5 Nf6 > 16.Nxe7+ Qxe7 17.Ra3 Be6 18.Bf3 Rfe8 19.Bd4 Ne4 20.Re3 f5 21.c4 Rad8 22.cxd5 > Bxd5 23.gxf5 Qf7 24.Rfe1 Qxf5 25.Qc2 Bc6 26.Bxe4? Rxe4 27.Rxe4 Qg6+ 28.Kf2 > Rxd4 29.Qxc6 □ Qxc6 30.Rxd4 Qc5 31.Re4 Qxa5 32.b4 Qa3 33.Kg2 Qc3 34.Rd8+ Kh7 > 35.Rdd4 b6 36.f5 a5! 37.bxa5 bxa5 38.Ra4 Qc5 39.Rf4 Qd5+ 40.Kg3 Qd3+ 41.Kg2 > Qe3 42.Rf2 Qg5+ 43.Kf1?? Qc1+ 0-1 > > Adams, Michael (2724) -- Hou, Yifan (2523) > UK-CHN (6) Liverpool > 2007.09.09 1-0 B84 > > 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be2 e6 7.O-O Be7 8.a4 Qc7 > 9.a5 O-O 10.Be3 Nbd7 11.Nb3 b5 12.axb6 Nxb6 13.Qd4 Nbd7 14.Rfd1 Ne5 15.Qb6 > Qxb6 16.Bxb6 Bb7 17.f3 Nc6 18.Ra4 h6 19.Kf1 Rfc8 20.Bf2 Rcb8 21.Bg3 Rd8 > 22.Rda1 Rab8 23.Nd1 Bc8 24.Na5 Nxa5 25.Rxa5 e5 26.Bxa6 Be6 27.b3 Nh5 28.Ne3 > Nxg3+ 29.hxg3 Bg5 30.Ke2 g6 31.Bd3 Bxe3 32.Kxe3 f5 33.Ra7 fxe4 34.Bxe4 Bf7 > 35.R1a6 Rb4 36.Rc7 Rd4 37.Raa7 Rf8 38.c3 Rd1 39.Ke2 1-0 > > How to force the second game to merge at move 10 in the first game? And not > at move 2! > Can anyone please help me out? > Thanks! > Jos > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K > The only unified storage solution that offers unified management > Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. > Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Scid-users mailing list > Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
