On 03/18/2013 05:03 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> I wasn't [selling anything]. I believe in what I say. > Advocating, then. > You will lose this argument.
How? >> Perhaps the idea of Steven taking over the project would really seem >> horrifying if scid had had any health in it. > The "horrifying" part is an ad misericordiam. I wish you spoke in a clear and plain manner so I won't have to Google so much. The above would prove true if I had not used "would". Of course, I think you already know what I mean to say: If scid had a healthy and vibrant community of users and developers, and Steve wanted to appropriate said community to benefit from the branding, then it would be a horrific act. Thus Horrifying. But clearly this is not the case. > Replacing scid with scidvspc is a way to takeover scid's brand than > anything else. > Everything else serves to justify this move. > This is ironic considering that scidvspc is nothing more than scid code- cleaned and improved. >> Of course, I was referring to the fact that old scid is buggier and less >> reliable than Steve's version. > Old Scid is not what Fulvio wants to maintain. > >> That the code is better maintained, has fewer >> bugs, and produces a faster program can be objectively verified. > If you have speed numbers, I'd like to have them. > > It would be interesting to analyze the evolution of scidvspc from a > functional point of view. > News log has one entry in March 2012, and three in 2011. > Steven's changes are mostly for UI. > Check for yourself. > It seems that you have undertaken such task yourself. Regardless of your interpretation of the changelog, scidvspc appears to be more stable, faster, and have nicer features, such as the results graph. >> It is most unlikely that this was Steve's intention. > I do not have your mentalist powers. > Steve's intention is none of my concerns. > I deal with speech acts. Au contraire! You keep insinuating that Steve may be after the "branding" aspect of the project. >> After neglecting the project, why would anyone want to ask him? > Because he's the last coder on board. > Because that's how to do this. The last coder to never give a darn and let the whole thing decay into oblivion. Two years of no activity should be a reasonable expiration by which to deem the project abandoned. >> Alex calls on Steve and now a few proud but disinterested people are up in >> arms. > That's an ad hominem. But Hominy is preferable and more digestible. >> You shouldn't feel so threaten by my "cheer leading". > That's an ad hominem. > No it's not. >> But lurchers would prefer to ignore anything anyone said about these issues. > That's an ad hominem. > Prove it. >> To say that I could have monopolized the discussion between Fulvio, Steve, >> and other developers is absurd. > And yet you commited another empty comment, > repeating the same arguments, > this time with ad hominems. > In your mind, perhaps. >> He had two years to do this. Alex's invitation was not an attempt of a coup. >> It was a desperate cry for help. Where was the love for scid? > Repeating that argument won't make it relevant. Sure it will. >> I had been using scid prior to scidvspc. Under Linux, I had no real >> complaints, but after using scidvspc, I can make a value judgment between an >> "old" program and an "active" program. > And you voice this value judgement again. > Absolutely. >> Don't bother. I will continue to post what I feel like posting. You may >> continue to get upset. > That's an ad hominem. Sure. >> I definitely care for scidvspc. And was rooting for scid when signs of life >> appeared on the horizon. > And you voice this value judgement again. Yep- it's just too obvious. > *** > > To recap. You advocate scidvspc by using the same two irrelevant > arguments over and over again, spiced up with ad hominems. Absolutely. Scidvspc is, by anyone's standards, a more polished and robust program than old scid. It runs faster and has more features. Some people claim that it does not crash as much. Anyone can download and run both programs side-by-side and come to these obvious conclusions- ad hominem an' all. Now, I've said that both scid and scidvspc communities would benefit tremendously if the projects merge under a single banner. But you fear that Steve is out to appropriate the "branding". As if Fulvio or you had a greater right to it. Quite honestly, the branding should belong to whomever keeps the project alive and healthy- in the spirit of Shane's original vision. So, yes, my vote goes to Steve as project lead. Add that to your hominem collection. > Instead of saying that you were filibustering, I'll settle for that. > Ok, good. Whatever gets you through your day. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
