Hi Pascal,

it´s a pity that no friendly resolution of a useless conflict is possible.
That obviously can´t be helped for the moment. Sometimes minds just don´t fit, 
even bright ones.

But it will be hard to prevent _anybody_ from using your code if you stick to 
GPL. And if you go away from GPL I guess you´ll have a nice version of 
scid[-ng] (whatever, I don´t care) and chessdb will have a community. Think 
about it and enjoy true freedom!

Thanks to both of you for reviving scid! Because alive it is!

Detlef

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:42:55 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Selon "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > As you are aware Pascal submitted an application to gain control of Scid.
> 
> Gain control would mean I wanted to "steal" (or something like that) Scid. 
> That
> was far from being my intention. I wish someone else had done it.
> Kirkby can be glad, he nearly achieved to kill Scid at SF, but be sure it will
> live somewhere else, under the same name.
> So I will switch naming of my releases from scid-pg to scid as I have the 
> right
> to. As chessDB is a fork of Scid (2004), and until anybody else is better 
> placed
> than me to continue Scid, I request things to be strictly separated : given
> Kirkby's attitude, I hope he'll be honest enough to continue his fork in a
> strict separated way than mine : I deny him the right to use my own code, as
> I'll never use his own code (I never heard of a forking project whose that was
> in conflict with the mainline take code from the original).
> So few was done on chessDB that people requested a port of my features to
> chessDB. I never had any request to port things done in chessDB to my 
> releases.
> That's a sign.
> I find interesting someone that is a true beginner in Tcl/TK programming (see
> his posting in newsgroups), and know nothing about Scid's internal denying
> someone that has been coding for Scid since 2003 the right to continue this
> project on sourceforge.
> 
> So here is the status of Scid at SF :
> - author unavailable;
> - admins take 1 month to answer a mail;
> - files are nearly 3 years old.
> And someone is happy with that !
> 
> There are enough hosting sites for development (CVS, etc) to avoid the use of 
> SF
> and have a naming conflict. So there will be a Scid ended in 2004 at SF and a
> Scid updated in 2007 somewhere else : sensible isn't it ?
> 
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1658454&group_id=1&atid=200001
> >
> > and have received this back:
> >
> > "I have marked the takeover request as denied (at least for now), and
> > mentioned both the sub-problems in the project's description."
> >
> > (I think he means sub-projects).
> >
> > Looking carefully one sees Scid's description
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/scid/
> >
> > has now been changed to:
> >
> > "Scid is a chess database application (cross-platform, for Unix/Linux
> > and Windows) with many search and database maintenance features. Two
> > related projects you may find interesting: .....
> > http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/ ..... http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/";
> >
> > I would like to see something on the Scid homepage
> >
> > http://scid.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > as the text on the summary page is small. But it is progress at least.
> >
> > I was going to ask nicely if Sourceforge staff would add the following
> > to the Scid homepage, it is OK with others (including Pascal of course)
> >
> > Does Michal have access and feel comfortable about making such a change?
> > That would be better.
> >
> > Anyway, this is what I was thinking of proposing.
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > _______________________________________-
> >
> > *** News - February 2007  ***
> >
> > Although there have not been any recent versions of Scid released by
> > Shane, admiration for Shane's work is very high. Two groups have
> > developed Scid further. These projects can be found at <link to ChessDB>
> > and <link to Scid-pg> (Neither developer has the slightest objection if
> > Shane wishes to remove this comment).
> > _________________________________________
> > _________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Note
> >
> > 1) I make no reference to forks, since whether you believe Scid-pg
> > and/or ChessDB are a fork depends on ones view and a small addition to a
> > web site is mot a good place to debate that one.
> >
> > 2) There should be no reference to specific changes, as those would soon
> > be outdated.
> >
> > 3) I feel it needs to be short and sweet - just let people know of
> > ChessDB's and Scid-pg's existence and let them find out what they want.
> >
> > 4) We should make it clear we don't mind Shane removing it.
> >
> > 5) I'm open to a better wording.
> >
> > I suspect if something could be agreed on between myself and Pascal, and
> > others feel it is reasonable too, we might be able to get Sourceforge
> > staff to make the change. Or if someone here is able to do it, all the
> > better,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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