Hi!

A short comment only to this one at the moment.

I agree with Michal that I prefer something that exits and works. I also agree 
with Michal that one should _not_ try to find the perfect solution for life, 
universe and everything including chess, but base it on simple terms. AFAIK 
building an onthology from scratch is beyond that, free keywording is useless, 
I've proposed a way in the middle that (besides we in germany alwas build a 
working group that is slow and inefficient) proofed to work.

I strongly DISAGREE with Michal on UIDs. These work and once established are 
well accepted. A prominent examples is DOI for scientific literature e.g. 
Besides I come from a discipline where you use to say "you should check this 
paper by Mueller" (Michals approach so far, unfortunately searching for the 
paper by Mueller is impossible) added by "I mean hep-ph/0107123". And everybody 
in this community knows how to handle that. It can't be shorter and more 
precise to the point than just to give the hep-number...

I'll not comment much on all this anymore, as the discussion looses a bit the 
focus to set the thing up. There're only a few interesting new points but that 
needs a mailer with decent quoting.

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Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid
Gesendet: Fr, 27. Jun 2008
Von: Michal Rudolf<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Benoit St-Pierre,  czwartek, 26 czerwca 2008:
> >>Moreover I prefer the reference "Spassky Fischer 1972, round 3" than
> "game
> >> my_huge_ref_db:v12-12345678", because if I copy a game from a base to
> >> another "Spassky Fischer 1972, round 3" is still valid. Not "game
> >> my_huge_ref_db:v12-12345678".
> 
> >What do you do if you have the Gligoric annotated game, and the Kasparov
> >one, your Togofied one, and all the drafts about the game ?  What do you
> do
> >if you have ten snapshots (fragments) from this game ?
> 
> >And :
> >> - as a human, I prefer "Spassky Fischer 1972, round 3"
> >> - as a computer, I don't need the UID.
> 
> >As a human, I prefer a UID that makes me generate the exact list of games
> >and snapshots I want.  As a computer, if I am not using UID, I am working
> >against everything that is thought in a course about database concepts.
> 
> As a human, I prefer something that works to something that is elegantly 
> designed, but doesn't work. 
> 
> It looks to me like we are trying to find a General Solution to Chess
> Database 
> instead of just doing something that is reasonably easy to implement and 
> already works for Chess Assistant and ChessBase training databases.
> 
> -- 
> Michal Rudolf
> 
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