I work mostly with RHEL systems and for personal use I have been
running Scientific Linux and CentOS on my personal systems.
Now that RedHat basically killed CentOS the question is how long will
the currently still available ones keep going, and Debian has
been around for quite sometime so it suites my needs plus selinux also
works with Debian. I will still wait out to what RedHat has in
store for people running personal production systems.
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On 12/10/20 5:47 PM, Vinícius Ferrão wrote:
I’ve done this mistake in the past.
The major issue with Debian is its lifecycle, even LTS is 5 years only. Same
for Ubuntu. It’s just too little. If you need to install it near the end of the
2yr lifecycle you’ll get effectively something like 3yrs of support.
The other issue is that the vast majority of academic and scientific software
is targeted for Enterprise Linux. As an HPC engineer we always needs to use
RHEL/derivatives or SLES/Leap. OpenHPC is only available to those flavors.
Mellanox OFED? Ok there’s Ubuntu support nowadays, but the default branches are
still for EL/SLE.
That’s how things work in our environment. I think the vast majority of people
here works on Academia or with science/research/etc.
And finally I don’t want to adapt everything to Debian. The FHS is different,
scripts will break, etc.
Best regards,
Vinícius Ferrão
Sent from my iPhone
On 10 Dec 2020, at 13:38, Maarten
<[email protected]> wrote:
I might also consider switching to Debian since it will be hard to tell if any
other still existing rhel clones will continue and Debian has been around for
quite some time.
On 12/10/20 8:34 AM, Maarten wrote:
I will probably be more like to go for Springdale Linux since they've been
around since before CentOS, I find it hard to put trust in a project that's
just getting started unless of course CERN changes their decision about
discontinuing Scientific Linux since they were migrating to CentOS.
On 12/10/20 5:17 AM, ~Stack~ wrote:
On 12/9/20 9:16 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
One thing does concern me: having left CentOS (it was all "volunteer" effort
at that epoch as I recall) for SL, a primary motivator was that SL had professional
(employed, not volunteer) persons doing the distros, and this SL list amounting to
support.
If Rocky is to be all volunteer, how reliable and professional will it be?
This is not a minor issue, as very few enthusiasts or other non-professionals
provide a truly reliable deliverable.
I would say, give it time. It wouldn't be the first time Kurtzer started an
open source project and turned into a company. :-)
For my use, is EL going to continue to be workstation friendly (e.g., laptop in which one cannot
pick and choose to integrate only Linux traditionally supported controllers with appropriate
drivers, such as sound "cards", but is stuck with whatever the laptop vendor has used --
typically MS Win "supported") or is it primarily a server distro? Ubuntu LTS still seems
to be laptop friendly.
They are aiming for complete RHEL reproducibility. If the goal is to be
as-true-as-possible-RHEL variant then the answer would be in how you use RHEL.
But do give it sometime. It's only been two days and the announcement I just
saw said that there are now 750 people actively participating in the various
forms to communication and they have direction, a plan, and leaders making it
happen. And there's thousands of people who have noticed and are talking about
it on /. , reddit, lwn, ect. That's pretty impressive and it speaks volumes
about the number of people who really do want a true-to-RHEL variant.
~Stack~
