If I correctly have read the IBH RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
it were. I wonder how much of this is due to the various issues with EL
8? As SL 8 is not happening, SL 9 certainly is not -- forcing one to
choose to stay RPM or not. If one stays RPM and does not want the
instability of CentOS stream (please see a previous posting to this list
with direct deployment observations of stream -- totally unsuitable for
a production hardened environment based upon what I read -- even less
"stable" than Fedora), then one is forced to either Rocky or AlmaLinux,
assuming either pushes out an EL 9 clone as soon as CentOS or other IBM
RH buildable source is released. Otherwise, for those who do not have a
too heavy investment in hardware "driver" or specific software/systems
application RPMs, there is Canonical Ubuntu LTS. Ubuntu lacks anything
similar to this list, as from my direct sign up and inspection of
AlmaLinux does that distro as well -- both have something similar to
"Ask Ubuntu" that is much more cumbersome and much more eyecandy than
this straightforward list. And, many more "non-systems" comments, much
less of an "engineering" approach than this list.
On 5/4/21 9:46 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
On 04.05.21 17:41, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
1. Fermilab and the non-CERN HEP community are not part of the Linux
Future
Community analysis as far as I can read, but are consulted later
after the
analysis is prepared (for HEP or CERN internal)?
Fermilab and CERN have made it clear that they want to do everything
jointly. They are considering input from the rest of the HEP community.
2. CentOS Stream 8 repositories -- are these available outside of CERN?
Outside of HEP?
CentOS Stream 8 comes straight from Red Hat.
JFI:
"CentOS Stream 9 will launch in Q2 2021 as part of the RHEL 9
development process."
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.redhat.com_en_blog_faq-2Dcentos-2Dstream-2Dupdates&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=hYk1ITQcUtbqa-Vlm6RCnkOJbUbC15278L1IWzXyRqw&s=SfSn-uhVE6EuC2nmdoDVqqJNPWL1Ak06bk4NTVMleN0&e=
Availability of Stream 9 packages on Gitlab, and a koji instance where
you can watch package build activity.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blog.centos.org_2021_05_centos-2Dcommunity-2Dnewsletter-2Dmay-2D2021-2D2105_&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=hYk1ITQcUtbqa-Vlm6RCnkOJbUbC15278L1IWzXyRqw&s=1_prbp5ptWOW4IlH1AtwMdgIqTByadUaIjE00obAC3A&e=
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__composes.stream.centos.org_test&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=hYk1ITQcUtbqa-Vlm6RCnkOJbUbC15278L1IWzXyRqw&s=dzekCNHUpo0DVAy9dFQWWJ38-TVG9bhnDuypLQJB2yU&e=
3. Note CC7 not SL7. What are the differences?
CERN and Fermilab did diverge on their approach to EL7. You know what
SL7 is, and much of the HEP community stuck with that, but CERN based
their operating system on CentOS. CC7 stands for CERN CentOS 7. They
are basically compatible and I didn't hear of any application software
that noticed any difference beside the name.
--
Leon
