In regards to satellite have you heard of Spacewalk and SAM, or even before that there was mrepo. Now with subscription manager its all standard yum repos PKI certs issued by Red Hat in other words you can easily mirror them if you know how https works.

SL more stable than RHEL I'm not touching that statement!

The new directory structure I don't agree with from a historic infosec point of view mostly because the point was to make /boot and / read only, but most of those concerns have gone away partially because of selinux and app armor but more so because the over use of /var has become a more significant threat so at this point I look at it more as breaking a multi-decade old habit when laying out my file systems. It took a  while for me to become at peace with it but its really not as bad as it sounds.

Libvirt isn't that bad I'm really happy with it truth be told.

Network Manager is not you're friend on a server and to goes even further the whole network script management stack screams 2.0 Kernel it needs to be scrapped and rewritten but that said they went down the safe route, and you can't blame them for that.

The real 700 pound gorilla  is systemd. Its a massive security concern for me and does many thing I don't want it too.
That said no one complained enough when ti was proposed so now we are stuck with it ( the production server management community failed and the desktop users won that's our fault not Red Hats).

-- Sent from my HP Pre3

On Feb 5, 2014 20:22, Nico Kadel-Garcia <> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Orion Poplawski <> wrote:

> FYI - The RHEL 7 Beta is public:
> so you can try it out now if you want.

I'd consider making a mirror of it, or of the ISO contents, to be able
to access the packages quickly. I'm afraid that RHN registered access
is no faster than it's ever been: the worldwide CentOS or Scientific
Linux mirrors continue to outperform the centralized, RHN repository
in speed of reporting the dependencies of a a package, and in
actually serving the package, unless you've invested the significant
capital in getting an RHN Satellite set up.

Scientific Linux mirrors are much cheaper and notably more stable than
anything I've encountered with RHN: it's one of the reasons I like the
free rebuilds like SL and CentOS.

I'm afraid there's a great deal I *don't* like about the beta: Moving
the contents of "/bin" to "/usr/bin", and setting the PATH to
"/usr/bin:/bin" is going to break a *lot* of old tools in confusing
ways. They should leave "/bin" entirely out of the default PATH to
avoid confusion with the n ew layout. And the new installer is "a new
spoke and wheel paradigm" that looks pretty in a PowerPoint
presentation, and actually hinders sensible workflow. How many places
can we hide the "Next" or "Done" button, I count at least 4 in those
various screens, and they're all far too large graphically for a small
remote VNC or VMware console over a limited network pipe.

Do not get me *started* on NetworkManager and libvirt.

Overall, I'm pretty unhappy with the release 7 beta. Upon review, the
only reason I want it, and will want SL 7 with it, is the
significantly updated Perl, PHP, and other libraries. I'd say that
Samba 4 is a big step forward but I've already tools for an up to date
backport of samba-4.x at And I'm
afraid that it's taking way too long. By the time it comes out, I'll
*already* have to bundle together a bunch pf backports from more
recent Fedora releases to get various Perl and Python and Java based
tools working.

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