Lou Rawls was on my list too. I think he still is. got no desire to see or hear him. I think over the past few years, there has been an increase in the number of entertainers whose lives and opinions we have been exposed to. Afterward we are bombarded with these views. So, I get disgusted, boycott them and over time, I sometimes find I can separate. Seinfeld is an example of something i can not watch. i don't see ever getting over that one. I really don't have a desire to see Uncle Jed and the family, but I notice now he does not upset me like he did when I first tried watching it after hearing what he did. I've seen the Scifi movies of Charleton Heston we mentioned so many time, I do not have a desire to watch, but again, I'm not driven away the way I used to and I can again think of those movies affectionately. Ironically, this happened some time after he announced he had Alzheimer's. It's like I felt he was punished enough. Not that he cares what I think
I'm not sure, but I think death, debilitating illness, or real hard times allows me to sometimes reacquire my affection for characters, shows, movies or the work of an asshole performer. Then again, I'm going on 20 years with Woody Allen. I did watch two of his movies over the past few years and felt guilty both times. I guess I'm not a big enough fan, so I have not watched any Woody stuff since. For a long time, I could not watch anything by John Wayne, now, if I here a movie he did is good, I will sometimes check it out. Clint Eastwood has been accused for domestic abuse on numerous occasions. I love his work in front of and behind the camera. Avoided him for a long time. Now I watch his stuff. Maybe I can watch his stuff because I do not hear about him kicking anyone's A** anymore. There are so many more. These people in Hollywood often seem ethically challenged. Maybe over the years, I have become ethically challenged as well. Don't know. Martin wrote: > Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does > something egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is > a prime example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. > I used to love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. > After that, I tossed every album of his I had. Yes, kids, *albums*. Worth > *plenty*, had I bothered to sell them. Dislike is dislike, for me. > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the characters > these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be avoiding > more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and Barnaby > Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson > > Martin wrote: > >> Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty... >> >> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I >> was thinking about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was >> crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>> the problem comes in when good hearted people with good intentions do >>> horrible things--which i think is probably the greater problem in humanity >>> than that caused by truly "evil" men doing evil things. I really don't >>> believe the likes of Heston or Stewart hate people; at least, not in the >>> way a Klansman might hate me. They honestly think their worldview is better >>> for everyone--me included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us >>> with well-intentioned force that's the problem. >>> >>> By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme conservatives. Don't >>> know if you knew this, but the lady who played Miss Jane on "The Beverly >>> Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for Congress as a Democrat from >>> Pennsylvania. Without warning her, Ebsen taped a radio ad for her >>> Republican opponent. The ad ended with the line, "I love you Nancy, but >>> you're too liberal for me". Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in >>> the Reagan years, and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was >>> gay) probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's >>> backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking of Uncle >>> Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that. >>> >>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been updated. >>> Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I have >>> liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card >>> carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on another star >>> I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart. It >>> seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that Heston >>> got so ugly in his old age >>> >>> Bosco Bosco wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: >>>> >>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000032/bio >>>> >>>> and Wikipedia as well >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston >>>> >>>> >>>> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> He's dead? I had know idea >>>>> >>>>> Astromancer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know...I do know he's dead now... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hasn't he >>>>> retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Astromancer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> NRA... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> one... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>>>>> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> has taken this into real life. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> "From my cold dead fingers." Ring a bell? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen "The Omega Man" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, >>>>> and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times >>>>> in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? >>>>> In "Omega man", he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the >>>>> Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of >>>>> the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff >>>>> the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El >>>>> Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his >>>>> body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his >>>>> men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>>>>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> I am a big fan of "Omega Man." The late, great Rosalind Cash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> plays >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the "sassy black girl." Although she remains too thin for my >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> taste, in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> nuff ruled >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> my world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~rave! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Street" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> Netflix. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> girl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies >>>>>>>> together to create the Will Smith movie. 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