I do not think people begrudge him his accomplishments - at least not simply because they do not like his religion.. I used to be a fan - even when I knew he was scientologist. John Travolta, Chick Corea, Kirstie Alley and many others are scientologists and people do not seem to have a problem with them. I'm a big Travolta fan. Personally I can't stand any performer of any faith that rams his faith down people's throats -- any faith. Most stars do not do that.
Cruise polled generally well until a few years ago--particularly with women. Cruise has openly been scientologist for years and people liked him before He was making big bucks then too.. I think he began loosing a few female fans after he ditch Kidman right before some alimony clause kicked in, and analytically selected Cruz only to dump her. I don't think it affected most fans. I think his likability really tanked in the polls when he fired his handlers who kept much of his private life under wraps. Word of his almost businesslike efforts to recruit a wife and cult-like approach to recruiting people into Scientology recruiting for his faith on the set and off could not have had a positive impact on his image. Add the Oprah Couch jumping bit and other "romantic" antics, multiple gay law suits , attacking Brook Shields on her taking pills for her depression after giving birth; attacking others who do not share his beliefs on live TV, and weird Katie control stories getting out- all in less then a year, how could all that not a negative impact on his image For me, my admiration waned when I noticed that he was playing the same top gun character with different settings. Collateral and to a lesser degree The Last Samurai started to change that for me. With MI3, I saw more of the same. But, this was not enough to make him someone difficult to watch. The overexposure of bad publicity was. If you wanted to find out about War of the Worlds, instead you got bombarded by all these negative back stories. he seems to have figured out that all publicity is not good publicity, so perhaps over time his negative image will fade. > I think people don't like Tom Cruise cause he is a Scientolgist and > doesn't promote Christianity left and right. So the media does as much > possible to make him look like he's crazy and is evil. Fact of the > matter is that he had 5 back to back to back movies that grossed over > $100 mil. and not many actors have accomplished that. > > On Dec 31, 2007 4:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> Cruise is a conundrum. I used to like his work back in the day. Knew >> he was a nut, but most of his antics were kept under raps, so I could >> ignore the noise of the real him. Then, he got rid of his long-time >> handlers and let the world see the real him, and now its like I have to >> get mentally prepared to watch him. I find myself sneering at the TV >> when he is on it. There is one exception. I absolutely love him as the >> psycho, assassin in Collateral. I guess he is a good maniac both on >> the screen and off. I hope to see more of that type of work. >> Unfortunately, he craves the adulation of playing the hero, so I'm not >> really expecting to see more of that type of performance for a long time >> to come >> >> Bosco Bosco wrote: >> >>> In some cases, like Tom Cruise, I just find the person so >>> objectionable that I can't watch their work because their personality >>> intrudes on the experience and ruins it for me. >>> >>> Bosco >>> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the >>>> characters >>>> these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be >>>> avoiding >>>> more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and >>>> Barnaby >>>> Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson >>>> >>>> Martin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty... >>>>> >>>>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was thinking >>>> about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was >>>> >>>> >>>>> crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him >>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the problem comes in when good hearted people with good >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> intentions do horrible things--which i think is probably the >>>> greater problem in humanity than that caused by truly "evil" men >>>> doing evil things. I really don't believe the likes of Heston or >>>> Stewart hate people; at least, not in the way a Klansman might hate >>>> me. They honestly think their worldview is better for everyone--me >>>> included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us with >>>> well-intentioned force that's the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> conservatives. Don't know if you knew this, but the lady who played >>>> Miss Jane on "The Beverly Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for >>>> Congress as a Democrat from Pennsylvania. Without warning her, >>>> Ebsen taped a radio ad for her Republican opponent. The ad ended >>>> with the line, "I love you Nancy, but you're too liberal for me". >>>> Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in the Reagan years, >>>> and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was gay) >>>> probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's >>>> backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking >>>> of Uncle Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> updated. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> have >>>> >>>> >>>>>> liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card >>>>>> carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> another star >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> It >>>> >>>> >>>>>> seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Heston >>>> >>>> >>>>>> got so ugly in his old age >>>>>> >>>>>> Bosco Bosco wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000032/bio >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and Wikipedia as well >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He's dead? I had know idea >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Astromancer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know...I do know he's dead now... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hasn't he >>>>>>>> retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Astromancer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NRA... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> that >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> one... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>>>>>>>> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Heston >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> has taken this into real life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "From my cold dead fingers." Ring a bell? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen "The Omega >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Man" >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> movie, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> times >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> way? >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> In "Omega man", he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the >>>>>>>> Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> of >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> setoff >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> there's El >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> that his >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> inspire his >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>>>>>>>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> I am a big fan of "Omega Man." The late, great Rosalind Cash >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> plays >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the "sassy black girl." Although she remains too thin for my >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> taste, in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> nuff ruled >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> my world. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ~rave! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Street" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Netflix. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> blk >>>> >>>> >>> === message truncated === >>> >>> >>> I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. >>> I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. >>> >>> You know these things that happen, >>> That's just the way it's supposed to be. >>> And I can't help but wonder, >>> Don't ya know it coulda been me. >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
