Ahem...I meant "Blue Collar" not "Car Wash," not that there is
anything wrong with "Car Wash."

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravena...@...> wrote:
>
> Pryor has two great movies in his catalog: "Car Wash" and "Which Way
> Is Up?"  I recently rewatched "Which Way Is Up?" and I was amazed how
> raw and real and funny it was.  Can you imagine a major black comedian
> today making a movie about corporate greed, migrant worker rights and
> personal integrity and responsibility?  Not to mention a totally hot
> Lonette McKee and a hilarious S&M scene featuring an equally hot
> Margaret Avery.
> 
> ~rave!
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <daryle@> wrote:
> >
> > Richard Pryor was the man,  but let's face it...he's done more BAD  
> > films than good ones.
> > 
> > Will Ferrell was "eh" until "Anchorman", because if you look at it,  
> > the best  Will Ferrell is him playing offa Cheri Oteri. Christina  
> > Applegate proved herself to be a great straight man but doesn't get  
> > overshadowed. Will has never done any better than "Anchorman", in
my   
> > opinion. It's his best picture. He will never outdo it. I don't
think  
> > Land Of the Lost is going to  be a great  Will Ferrell movie as much  
> > as it's going to  be "this is what Brendan Fraser should be doing".
> > 
> > On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> > 
> > > Daryle, we didn't see the same movie.
> > >
> > > To me, Ferrell has been a one-note band for years. Maybe I just  
> > > don't get his stuff. It's been a long time since I synched with  
> > > comedians. Blame Richard Pryor for being so great...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> > >
> > >  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing  
> > > At The Box Office
> > >
> > >  Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:48:28 -0500
> > >
> > >  From : Daryle Lockhart <daryle@>
> > >
> > >  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > I submit that "Anchorman" is possibly Will Ferrell's greatest film.
> > > Also, it may be one of the greatest comedy films of the last 10
> > > years. Except for the fact that it's the whitest movie since
> > > Sophie's Choice, It's a flawless cast with flawless acting. I say
> > > this after just watching Tropic Thunder. That's my submission, and
> > > I am open to debate.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:37 PM, B. Smith wrote:
> > >
> > >> No love for Anchorman?
> > >>
> > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Ha-ha! I like Will Ferrell in small doses. Long after the hype on
> > >> him had built, I sat down and watched "Talladega Nights" where
he was
> > >> NASCAR racer "Ricky Bobby", and laughed my butt off. But that was
> > >> only the second or third movie I'd seen him in. I also enjoyed his
> > >> more subtle turn in "Stranger Than Fiction", the movie where
his life
> > >> was literally being controlled by an author's keystrokes. And "Elf"
> > >> gave me some chuckles as well. I think I saw "Elf", then "Stranger
> > >> Than Fiction", then "Talladega Nights", giving me silly comedy,
> > >> subtle comedy/drama, then silly comedy again. That was sufficient.
> > >>>
> > >>> But Ferrell needs to quit doing the same old type comedy film. His
> > >> turns in the films about ice skating and basketball, for
example, are
> > >> all variations of the same Ricky Bobby scheme, so I avoided
them. He
> > >> has the looks and I think the chops to do other stuff. I don't know
> > >> if he can carve the niche of understated, nuanced actor that Bill
> > >> Murray has found for his career. But I think he might be able to do
> > >> at least as well as Adam Sandler, who's actually not half bad
when he
> > >> backs off the stupid comedies and reigns himself in for roles like
> > >> that in "Spanglish", or "50 First Dates". Ferrell has had training,
> > >> like many comedians he gets the drama underlying life, and I
think he
> > >> could start branching out a bit more.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm always intrigued at watching comedic actors who get their
start
> > >> or fame in really silly, over-the-top roles, who can also pull off
> > >> the more subtle stuff. Not everyone can do both: Chevy Chase, for
> > >> example. But actors like Steve Martin, Sandler, Murray, Robin
> > >> Williams, Eddie Murphy (he has the ability, just not the will I
> > >> guess), Steve Carell all have that talent,and I think Ferrell does
> > >> too. He's made the dough, now it's time to stretch...
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Martin Baxter"
> > >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:38:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > >> Eastern
> > >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The
> > >> Box Office
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Keith, you forgot to include Will Ferrell. I'm certain that
> > >> it was due to your own mental self-defenses kicking in...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> > >>> Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing
At The
> > >> Box Office
> > >>> Date : Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:21:34 +0000 (UTC)
> > >>> From : Keith Johnson
> > >>> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Funny. He isn't a guaranteed big draw for me. Among male actors,
> > >> I'm much more likely to see a flick with Don Cheadle, Chiwetel
> > >> Ejiofor, Clive Owen, Viggo Mortensen, Robert Duvall. Maybe De
Niro if
> > >> it's not Meet the Parents or Righteous Kill type crap. And I'd
> > >> actually place Clooney higher up on my list than Smith. In fact, I
> > >> can't remember the last time I saw a movie because Smith was in
it. I
> > >> saw "Hancock" and "I Am Legend" because they were scifi, and
"Hitch"
> > >> because it was a romantic comedy I could share with my wife. The
> > >> other males below, I'll certainly consider--especially Damon and Di
> > >> Caprio--but depends on the type of movie they're in. I will
say, I do
> > >> wish Christian Slater were still doing good work, for he'd
certainly
> > >> be on my list.
> > >>>
> > >>> For female actors, my list would have to include Judi Dench,
Angela
> > >> Bassett (keep hoping she finally finds the roles that utilize her
> > >> massive talent), Meryl Streep (who's really impressed me with her
> > >> continually good work as she gets older), Kimberly Elise (woefully
> > >> underappreciated actress), Taraji P. Henson (hard not to be engaged
> > >> with, even with unintentionally funny stuff like "He don't love me
> > >> no 'mo'!" in "Baby Boy"), Cate Blanchett, Jodi Foster, Queen
Latifah
> > >> (good dramatic and comedic actress), Sanaa Lathan.
> > >>>
> > >>> They ought to list the actors guaranteed to kill a movie, to drive
> > >> people away. For me, that would include Adam Sandler (don't get his
> > >> humour), Pauly Shore (how does he get work?), Jim Carey (most
of his
> > >> stuff is too manic for me), David Spade (loved him on TV, can't
abide
> > >> his film work), Mila Jovovich (horrible movie choices), Kate Hudson
> > >> (she's sure to star in wretched romantic comedies that make you
gag).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Tracey de Morsella"
> > >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "CINQUE"
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 5:53:22 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > >> Eastern
> > >>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box
> > >> Office
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Will Smith -- The Only Sure Thing At The Box Office
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 12 February 2009 1:27 AM, PST
> > >>>
> > >>> Will Smith has again emerged as the film star whose name on the
> > >> marquee guarantees a movie's success, according to most
analysts. In
> > >> Forbes magazine's Star Currency survey, Smith was the only film
star
> > >> to receive a perfect score of 10. Others in the top ten included:
> > >> Leonardo DiCaprio , Angelina Jolie , Brad Pitt , Tom Hanks , George
> > >> Clooney , Denzel Washington , Matt Damon , Jack Nicholson , and
Julia
> > >> Roberts .
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> >
>


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