Oh don't make me sad! I remember the good old shows for the important works they were at the time due to their cultural significance, then get sad when they're mined shamelessly for quick cash nowadays. "Mod Squad" was a seminal show for its time. I was puzzled as to why they did a remake, given the power and import of the original couldn't be recaptured in these modern times. it just came off as someone capitalizing on the name and memory of a show, but not really contributing to its significance. In the 70s, young hippie types as cops, a black man and a woman as detectives, was revolutionary. In modern times it's same old same old. Even TV shows like "New York Undercover" had covered that ground by the time the movie came out. I felt the same about "Shaft". They just cashed in on the name, then gave us a movie where Jackson brought nothing new to the role, made nothing approaching the type of statements Roundtree was making back in the day (even of some of those statements were sexist). And it was toothless to boot, as the studio demanded they cut back on all the sexuality of Roundtree's original movies. Then what was the point...? And most of all, I still lament what Tom Cruise did to the Mission Impossible concept with his movies. I believe that was one of the first of the recent trend of "remakes in name only", where the studio cashes in on the cachet of a name, then proceeds to completely butcher the original concept. The MI movies were okay (the third had lots of good action thanks to Abrams), but they were nothing like the real concept of the series. The series were about deception, planning, and teamwork. They had a lot of intelligently planned and executed missions. The movies were star vehicles centering on Cruise, with the other agents as mere assistants. It was really more a spy movie based on a single spy. I wish they'd have just created a new franchise and not sullied the memory of MI by using that great series' name. And what did they to Jim Phelps character in the first flick was unforgivable. Peter Graves--the second but most well known Jim Phelps---was aghast at that move.
Yeah, yeah I know: idiot modern, younger audiences need more action. Man I get tired of that excuse. What are we producing, succeeding generations of kids with short attention spans? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:16:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish Yea the Rockford files replaced Mannix as the show to watch when I was a kid. (also Mission Impossible and Mod Squad) On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: That was part of the fun of those old detective shows. The guys weren't invincible, weren't some kind of Special Forces/Green Beret/SEAL who could kill a man with their pinky. They were regular guys who had to depend on sleuthing, healthy "tips" to the local pimp or drunk for information, and good old fashioned stubborness. Made them more relatable to me. Remember Jim Rockford? He was always getting beat up too, and i loved that show. By the way, i hear "The Rockford Files" is being remade soon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.W. Badie" < astromancer2...@yahoo.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:09:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish What I remember of Mannix was he got the crap beat out of him just about every other week... "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" >From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mr. Worf < hellomahog...@gmail.com > wrote: From: Mr. Worf < hellomahog...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 11:17 PM I forgot about Mannix! That was one of the first detective shows that I remember watching! I haven't seen any re-runs of that show though. It was on tv from 1968-75. According to wiki Gail Fisher won multiple Emmys for that show. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net > wrote: Not bad at all. I also liked Teresa Graves ("Get Christie Love") and Gail Fisher ("Mannix") ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey de Morsella" < tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:31:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish How come you guys never bring up Tamara Dobson (Cleopatra Jones). She sounds like she belongs in this group http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tamara_Dobson From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:51 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish I was never enamored of Ms. Grier (sacrilege I know!), but poor Lisa Nicole Carson did it for me! Too bad she seems to be suffering from serious emotional problems. Nola Gaye, yes indeed. And let's not forget Lola Falana and Dianne Carroll. Oh--and Sofia Vergara from "Modern Family". Wow, wow, wow! Halle who? ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.W. Badie" < astromancer2002@ yahoo.com > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I have trouble remembering. ..Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)... "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" >From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo. com > wrote: From: Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo. com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ ...> wrote: > > Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in "Love Jones" is just a treat to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot. > I see you and raise you: ~rave! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/