If Windtalkers was Woo's Heaven's Gate was Paycheck his Year of the Dragon, The
Sicilian or Desparate Hours? LOL
Woo went back to Hog Kong and just had a big comeback. His epic film Red Cliff
did great worldwide box office. I think he and most HK directors didn't mesh
well with the American studio style. Also HK melodrama mixed in with awesome
action just doesn't play the same way in English. ;)
Supposedly he is doing some more American films in the near future.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> wrote:
>
> Although he was great at it ("Face Off"), John Woo was not a fan of the
> formulaic movies he was making. After MI-2, he thought he had the cachet to
> make the kind of movie he wanted. He made "Windtalkers" (2002) a
> well-intentioned movie starring Nicholas Cage that took in $77 million
> worldwide ($40 million in America) on a budget of $115 million.
> "Windtalkers" is his "Heaven's Gate."
>
> This is why I don't write that urban lit shit even though I know I can get it
> published - I don't want to HAVE to write it. It is hard to get out of any
> ghetto. Walter Mosley wants to write SF but he wrote the Easy Rawlins'
> novels to get published. Now he is pigeon-holed as a detective fiction
> writer. It ain't terrible; but it ain't good, either.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <tdlists@> wrote:
> >
> > That statement reminds me of John Woo movies. At one time, his name was box
> > office gold. After a string of hits using the same formula, and many people
> > creating carbon copies, his name became synonymous with B-movies.
> >
> > What's he doing these days, has he had a comeback with a new formula? I
> > never hear of him anymore
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of B Smith
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:55 AM
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Hollywood Extinction: Old Dinosaurs die at Box
> > Office
> >
> > The old formula picture doesn't seem to work at the box office unless they
> > throw some new spin on it. From Paris With Love was probably a slam dunk
> > once upon a time but the buddy cop genre seems stale now. I think Kevin
> > Smith's Cop Out is going to suffer the same fate.
> >
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn" <ravenadal@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I expected more from Harrison's film because, apparently, he is still a
> > box office draw. I attend a lot of sneak previews (I am going to see
> > "Shutter Island," tonight. These are typically oversold. The biggest crowd
> > I have seen this year was for the Ford picture. My date and I arrived an
> > hour early and could not get into the theater. For comparison, the second
> > biggest crowd I have seen for one of these was for "Sherlock Holmes" (which
> > I also did not get into) and Holmes proved to be a box office success. "The
> > Book of Eli" was well attended but the theater was not full and "Eli" has
> > done respectable business. I guess that is the problem with Hollywood: you
> > never know.
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think the timing was wrong for all three films. In the case of Ford's
> > film
> > > > they should have waited for the interviews about the movie to happen
> > before
> > > > the movie was released. Better still timed it with another medical
> > movie. It
> > > > doesn't help if the movie is mediocre as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Kelwyn <ravenadal@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Harrison Ford's "Extraordinary Measures" grosses $12 million
> > (budget:$31
> > > > > million)
> > > > >
> > > > > John Travolta's "From Paris with Love" grosses $17.9 million
> > (budget:$52
> > > > > million)
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel Gibson's "Edge of Darkness" grosses $37 million (budget: $80
> > million)
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