On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:27 PM, William Blevins <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not opposed to a CoC; I'm just a skeptic neutral party.
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Jenness <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 10, 2015, at 09:59 , Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't see it that way. I see it as a proactive, positive step.
>> >
>>
>> +1
>>
>> > Look, right now there's a lot of, well, not-so-nice people in the world.
>> > Many of them hang out online. This isn't PC, it's a fact of modern life.
>> > This isn't going to get better; I think it's getting worse if anything.
>> > Saying "hey, we're a friendly and welcoming community" isn't pandering, 
>> > it's
>> > accepting that not everyone is nice, but saying we aim to be.
>>
>> The scons list has been fine in the 6 months I’ve been here. Funnily
>> enough it is only this recent code of conduct debate that has worried me
>> with talk of victims and SJW.
>>
>> I think a code of conduct would be great and I imagine it would have zero
>> effect on this community internally. The code of conduct is also an outwards
>> facing item, though, that indicates to people that scons is welcoming to new
>> people asking questions. Why would we object to that?
>
>
> I just think that people are innocent until proven guilty. If your
> organization needs a CoC, then I think that says something about the
> organization or perhaps about society. I am a skeptic of anyone who needs to
> wave a flag around saying that "we are descent people, believe us!" I see a
> CoC as that flag. I try not to judge, but it's the pessimist in me...

+1. Can't say better.

> I think that people who don't need to read the CoC will behave
> appropriately, and those who won't behave appropriately won't read the CoC.
> It isn't that people don't know the rules, some people just don't care.

-- 
anatoly t.
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