wow... take it easy guys. Let's try to avoid personal attacks.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Neal Clark <[email protected]>wrote:

> I apologize if I'm being opaque.
>
> I think you're full of shit.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Neal Clark <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> What specifically is your definition of "the extras"?
>>
>> ​please describe your experience as a software engineer, or ninja, or
>> ninja rockstar, or rockstar.
>>
>> where did you learn your licks or star-throwing abilities, and how long
>> did you use them?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Josh Fox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Neal, thanks for taking the poll.
>>>
>>> The silly terminology was all tongue-in-cheek
>>> <330.gif>
>>>   , and yes, I tried hard to keep it short-and-sweet.
>>>
>>> As for the ridiculous term "IT peasant" (I think I made that up): I
>>> actually think that quite a few top developers *don't* do the "extras."
>>>
>>> They focus on doing their jobs well, learn new skills and meet
>>> colleagues in the context of their jobs.  But the relative proportion of
>>> each type is an interesting question that I'm trying to learn more about.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Neal Clark 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I took your idiotic, reductive, manager-fashion-word survey. I'm an "IT
>>>> Peasant," apparently.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I should publish more open source code. I should apparently
>>>> obsess over it, so as to gain the interest in know-nothings.
>>>>
>>>>  ​for those who haven't taken the survey, the questionnaire places all
>>>> of us into 1 of 3 categories:
>>>>
>>>>  ​1. "Ninja Rockstar"
>>>> 2. "Rockstar"
>>>> 3. "IT Peasont"
>>>>
>>>> (vomit, on all three counts)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Josh Fox <**[email protected]**
>>>> ="mailto:[email protected]";>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  *> As a nice follow up, when you article is up can you ping the
>>>>> thread again?*
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup, I'll do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>>  Writer: *Business 
>>>>> Insider<http://blog.fiveyearitch.com/p/three-articles-fiveyearitch-business.html>
>>>>> /Brazen Careerist <http://blog.brazencareerist.com/author/joshfox/>*
>>>>>   Founder, *FiveYearItch.com <http://fiveyearitch.com/>*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Zach g <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  As a nice follow up, when you article is up can you ping the thread
>>>>>> again?  Would love to read the results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 13, 2013, at 3:00 AM, Josh Fox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For an article I'm writing (for Brazen Careerist/Business Insider),
>>>>>> I'd like to ask:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you do the ninja thing -- pardon the gawdawful expression* ☺* ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How common is it really to commit open-source code, rack up
>>>>>> StackOverflow karma, and continually learn new technologies? Or do people
>>>>>> just "do their jobs"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing that a small proportion of active bloggers gives us an
>>>>>> exaggerated sense of these things; or maybe it really is common.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put together a *quick three-question 
>>>>>> poll*<http://blog.fiveyearitch.com/p/for-article-for-brazen.html>.
>>>>>> I made it to be fun to answer, and when you do it, you can see where you
>>>>>> stand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Writer: *Business 
>>>>>> Insider<http://blog.fiveyearitch.com/p/three-articles-fiveyearitch-business.html>
>>>>>> /Brazen Careerist <http://blog.brazencareerist.com/author/joshfox/>*
>>>>>>   Founder, *FiveYearItch.com <http://fiveyearitch.com/>*
>>>>>>
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